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On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:50 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, david walcroft wrote:
>
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 09:26 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John Cornelius wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose that adding:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bpalogin.* /var/log/bpalogin/messages
> > > > > >
> > > > > > to /etc/syslog.conf would be too easy but it might do it for you. It
> > > > > > should go before the omnibus line that sends *.info to
> > > > > > /var/log/messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I don't believe this will work with syslogd. It may work with some
> > > > > of the newer replacements. You may want to read the syslog.conf man
> > > > > page to see the formats that it accepts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mikkel
> > > > >
> > > > I find that I don't have a 'syslog.conf' in /etc/ and no man syslog,conf.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Ah! F8 uses rsyslogd instead of ye ol' syslogd. The config file
> > > is /etc/rsyslog.conf.
>
> careful. you actually have a choice these days, IIRC -- there's also
> syslog-ng in addition to rsyslog.
>
> rday
But again the frustration of trying to find out what options suddenly
appear. There is no direct mention of rsyslogd in the Release notes.
Just a web page that will allow you to find it if you know that is what
you are looking for. A little circular if you ask me.
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Aaron Konstam wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:50 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
... snip ...
> > careful. you actually have a choice these days, IIRC -- there's also
> > syslog-ng in addition to rsyslog.
> >
> > rday

> But again the frustration of trying to find out what options suddenly
> appear. There is no direct mention of rsyslogd in the Release notes.
> Just a web page that will allow you to find it if you know that is what
> you are looking for. A little circular if you ask me.

there was also the frustration of having both of them installed
simultaneously, causing "yum update" to barf claiming there was a
conflict between the two. grrrr.

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I just tried to check something in /var/log/messages and noticed
something: the last entry was on Dec 6 when I rebooted to start the
upgrade from F14 to F16. Since then, nothing. I presume that something
was turned off during the upgrade but I don't know what and I don't know
the syntax of the new system well enough to find out. Suggestions?
Also, if anybody has a url for a cheat sheet, I'd probably not be the
only person who'd appreciate having it.

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On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote:

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On 12/21/2011 12:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html





Excellent. Thank you. The odd thing here is that the link mentioned in
that post already existed. And, I'd still appreciate a cheat sheet if
one exists.

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Try here !

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd
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On 12/21/2011 01:13 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote:

Try here !

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd


Thanx, Alan, I've bookmarked it JIC.
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On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +0000, Frank Murphy wrote:
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> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html

Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a
fault?

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On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +0000, Frank Murphy wrote:


http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html


Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a
fault?


I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by
the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition.


If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed.

Ralf

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On 12/21/2011 11:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a
fault?


<set mode="pedant">
No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is something
entirely different which would better be called assuming your
conclusion. The term comes from a form of reasoning in which you start
off by asking your audience to allow you to make certain assumptions.
If one of those assumptions is logically equivalent to what you're
trying to prove, you are, in the literal sense, begging the question.


The classic question, "When did you stop beating your wife?" is an
excellent example because of the unspoken assumption that you have, at
least once, beat your wife.

</mode>
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