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Old 12-23-2011, 12:23 AM
jdow
 
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On 2011/12/22 17:16, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/22/2011 04:29 PM, jdow wrote:


(Joe MIGHT have been wise to move to 15 from 14 then move to 16 from 15 as
the upgrade path would have smaller changes. 14 to 15 might have properly
caught his syslogd problem. I'm not looking forward to the day the RHEL
path
adopts systemd. It sounds like more problem than solution.)


I'd skipped F10 earlier, because it seemed to have lots of problems, and found
the upgrade from 9 to 11 painless. I was hoping to have the same luck this time,
but no. Neither my desktop nor my laptop has sound any more, nor can either one
recognize a blank CD and write to it. Not only that, I can only mount flash
drives on my desktop as root, and it insists that only root can write to them,
no matter what I do to change the permissions. And, the only kernel that boots
correctly on my laptop is the F14 kernel, which might have something to do with
it. I'm seriously considering uninstalling all 3.X kernels, rebooting and
updating the kernel to see if that helps. And, I'd still like to know how having
/var/log/messages active would have been much of a help because AFAICT, most of
the info I need doesn't get put there anyway.


Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works.

If it works you can recover your old data with a $10 USB->IDE/SATA dongle.
(I love mine, even though it keeps trying to fall apart it's so cheaply
made.) For a 2.5" drive you'd not even have to use external power for
the drive. USB is enough.

Then you can shuffle installs back and forth between disks, if you want,
using a live CD. Grandma might not have the talent for that even though
this elderly lady does. I do feel you're smart enough and experienced
enough to do it if you decide to.

{^_-}
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:40 AM
Joe Zeff
 
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On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote:

Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works.


Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income.
Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my
monthly income, not to be considered lightly, especially when you
consider that I need to save up to upgrade my desktop. And, as I
commented in another post, neither of my computers is currently willing
to burn a CD. One principle that I always used when I was doing tech
support applies here: try not to throw somebody else's money at a problem.

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Old 12-23-2011, 12:46 AM
jdow
 
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On 2011/12/22 17:40, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote:

Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works.


Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A
"cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income, not to be
considered lightly, especially when you consider that I need to save up to
upgrade my desktop. And, as I commented in another post, neither of my computers
is currently willing to burn a CD. One principle that I always used when I was
doing tech support applies here: try not to throw somebody else's money at a
problem.


OIC that makes a HUGE difference. "Nevermind!"

{o.o}
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