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Old 12-15-2007, 06:59 PM
William Case
 
Default Fedora's spamassassin frontend ??

Hi;

I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
always seems to be junked. They are a good friend and I don't want to
keep losing their mail. I am using Evolution 2.10.3 with spamassassin
3.2.3.

If someone knows how to solve this problem I will stop here.

If I can get a SA gui from the Fedora Repo that doesn't interfere with
Evolution, I will try that. I prefer a gui for this job because it's
not something I will have to do often.

Can someone suggest a spamassassin gui that I can download from the
Fedora 7 repo and that will fix this problem? The spamassassin site
recommends several front ends but I couldn't find any of them on the
Fedora add programs list (pirut).

Otherwise I will use the SA readme recommended command line whitelist
fix.

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Old 12-15-2007, 07:29 PM
"Dean S. Messing"
 
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: I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
: have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
: always seems to be junked.

Her name doesn't happen to be "Viagra" does it?

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Old 12-15-2007, 07:50 PM
"Dean S. Messing"
 
Default Fedora's spamassassin frontend ??

: I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
: have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
: always seems to be junked. They are a good friend and I don't want to
: keep losing their mail. I am using Evolution 2.10.3 with spamassassin
: 3.2.3.
:
: If someone knows how to solve this problem I will stop here.
:
: If I can get a SA gui from the Fedora Repo that doesn't interfere with
: Evolution, I will try that. I prefer a gui for this job because it's
: not something I will have to do often.

I use GUIs for very little and I don't use evolution at all so this
may be of no help. But I suggest you look in
~/.spamassassin/user_prefs to see if it contains a line like

whitelist_from your_friend@your_friends_domain

On my system the presence of such a line starts my SPAM score out at
-100 for that incoming message. Mail must pass a threshold of 4.5 to
be tagged as spam so the mail must contain a wopping lot of indicators
for this to happen. (It never has, so far.) Here's the Spam-Status
line from a message from a Whitelisted person on my system:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS,
USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3

Note the presence of USER_IN_WHITELIST. Does yours have that?

It my case the Bayesian test pulled the score below -100, because it
judged it to be non-spam from other factors. But even a Bayes score
of "100% spam" only adds 4.3 points to the total (on my system).
(Being entirely HTML adds another 4.5.)

: Can someone suggest a spamassassin gui that I can download from the
: Fedora 7 repo and that will fix this problem? The spamassassin site
: recommends several front ends but I couldn't find any of them on the
: Fedora add programs list (pirut).

It's easy to edit your user_prefs file and insert that one line under
the comment.



Dean

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Old 12-15-2007, 07:55 PM
William Case
 
Default Fedora's spamassassin frontend ??

I understand Dean;
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 12:29 -0800, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> : I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
> : have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
> : always seems to be junked.
>
> Her name doesn't happen to be "Viagra" does it?
>
It is hard to pass up an opportunity to use a great line like that.

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Old 12-15-2007, 08:06 PM
"Dean S. Messing"
 
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: On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 12:29 -0800, Dean S. Messing wrote:
: > : I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
: > : have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
: > : always seems to be junked.
: >
: > Her name doesn't happen to be "Viagra" does it?
: >
: It is hard to pass up an opportunity to use a great line like that.

I really did try to resist. But it was just too much for me.

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Old 12-15-2007, 09:57 PM
Aaron Konstam
 
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On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 14:59 -0500, William Case wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
> have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
> always seems to be junked. They are a good friend and I don't want to
> keep losing you are asking to do.mail. I am using Evolution 2.10.3 with spamassassin
> 3.2.3.
This does not work in evolution. Evolution does not use the standard
options of spamassasin. I would also like to know how to make it do what
you want to do.
>
> If someone knows how to solve this problem I will stop here.
>
> If I can get a SA gui from the Fedora Repo that doesn't interfere with
> Evolution, I will try that. I prefer a gui for this job because it's
> not something I will have to do often.
>
> Can someone suggest a spamassassin gui that I can download from the
> Fedora 7 repo and that will fix this problem? The spamassassin site
> recommends several front ends but I couldn't find any of them on the
> Fedora add programs list (pirut).
>
> Otherwise I will use the SA readme recommended command line whitelist
> fix.
>
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> Regards Bill
>
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Old 12-15-2007, 09:58 PM
Aaron Konstam
 
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On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 12:50 -0800, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> : I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
> : have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
> : always seems to be junked. They are a good friend and I don't want to
> : keep losing their mail. I am using Evolution 2.10.3 with spamassassin
> : 3.2.3.
> :
> : If someone knows how to solve this problem I will stop here.
> :
> : If I can get a SA gui from the Fedora Repo that doesn't interfere with
> : Evolution, I will try that. I prefer a gui for this job because it's
> : not something I will have to do often.
>
> I use GUIs for very little and I don't use evolution at all so this
> may be of no help. But I suggest you look in
> ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs to see if it contains a line like
>
> whitelist_from your_friend@your_friends_domain
>
> On my system the presence of such a line starts my SPAM score out at
> -100 for that incoming message. Mail must pass a threshold of 4.5 to
> be tagged as spam so the mail must contain a wopping lot of indicators
> for this to happen. (It never has, so far.) Here's the Spam-Status
> line from a message from a Whitelisted person on my system:
>
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS,
> USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3
>
> Note the presence of USER_IN_WHITELIST. Does yours have that?
>
> It my case the Bayesian test pulled the score below -100, because it
> judged it to be non-spam from other factors. But even a Bayes score
> of "100% spam" only adds 4.3 points to the total (on my system).
> (Being entirely HTML adds another 4.5.)
>
> : Can someone suggest a spamassassin gui that I can download from the
> : Fedora 7 repo and that will fix this problem? The spamassassin site
> : recommends several front ends but I couldn't find any of them on the
> : Fedora add programs list (pirut).
>
> It's easy to edit your user_prefs file and insert that one line under
> the comment.
>
Evolution does not uuse the options of user_prefs except I think the
baysian database.
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Old 12-15-2007, 10:28 PM
William Case
 
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Hi Aaron;

I am hoping we can get some help on the Fedora list. I asked on the
Evolution list over a month ago and got no response.

On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 16:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 14:59 -0500, William Case wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > I am having a problem with spamassassin registering a false positive. I
> > have tried to whitelist (unjunk) a particular individual whose name?
> > always seems to be junked. They are a good friend and I don't want to
> > keep losing you are asking to do.mail. I am using Evolution 2.10.3 with spamassassin
> > 3.2.3.
> This does not work in evolution. Evolution does not use the standard
> options of spamassasin. I would also like to know how to make it do what
> you want to do.
> >
[snip]
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:44 AM
Tim
 
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On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 18:28 -0500, William Case wrote:
> I am hoping we can get some help on the Fedora list. I asked on the
> Evolution list over a month ago and got no response.

Standard advice, some time ago, would have been to not use Evolution
with spam assassin, but have spam assassin attack your mail before
Evolution gets its hands on it. "Pre-filtering."

I don't do this, so I can't advise how. But I think you'd want to look
at fetchmail and or procmail, along with a local mail server.

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