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Old 08-25-2008, 08:18 PM
Roger Heflin
 
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Bob Goodwin wrote:

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:58 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:


I had hoped to make the new drive a third one but sadly I found only
two SATA connectors on the motherboard so I had to revert to plan B.



Or there's plan c - buy a SATA card to plug into your motherboard.




SATA card:

This is the only one I see that recognizes the existence of non
Microsoft operating systems [there are some that mention Apple OSX]
but do I care? This one has a raid function [which I don't need]
that might require MS software but I would expect a controller card
to just work except possibly for some change in the BIOS settings?



HighPoint ROCKETRAID1520 W/O PCI SATA Controller Card -

*Operating Systems Supported:* Windows 98 / ME / NT4.0 / 2K / XP
/ 2003 Linux (SuSE, Red Hat), and FreeBSD


It looks to me like a $15 or $20 card ought to work by just plugging
it in without Windows but I need reassurance.


Does anyone know for certain?

Bob




Run away from that card, supported by linux typically means that they
include

a driver in the box.

Any of the Sil* based cards should work, and should be really really
cheap (<$30).


Roger

Yes, that's what I thought but I have been reluctant to order one until
someone verified it.


I'll pick one from Newegg's list and order it this afternoon. They show
a bunch of them. Most limited to 1.5 gB/s. The drive I bought is
spec'd for 3 gigs but I noticed it came jumpered for 1.5? Don't know
what the one I removed is rated for. But it has the /boot/ file on it
and it would make my life easier to just use it.


So far I am quite happy with F-9, even sound works once I got the
speaker plug in the right jack, no pulse audio problem here.


Tnx.

Bob


1.5 or 3 won't matter. It is unlikely the drive itself will overload the 1.5
stuff. The best (they cost quite a bit more-WD Raptors) drives top out at
sustained rates of 100MB/second (about 1.0 Gbps), normal drives only do about
60-75MB/second, and likely if you put multiple drives on those boards you will
hit the PCI bus limit which is lower than 1.5Gbps (132MB/second), so it won't
matter one bit what the actual SATA connection speed is.


Roger

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Old 08-25-2008, 10:42 PM
Bob Goodwin
 
Default H.D. install problem -

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Roger Heflin wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:58 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:


I had hoped to make the new drive a third one but sadly I found only
two SATA connectors on the motherboard so I had to revert to plan B.



Or there's plan c - buy a SATA card to plug into your motherboard.




SATA card:

This is the only one I see that recognizes the existence of non
Microsoft operating systems [there are some that mention Apple OSX]
but do I care? This one has a raid function [which I don't need]
that might require MS software but I would expect a controller card
to just work except possibly for some change in the BIOS settings?



HighPoint ROCKETRAID1520 W/O PCI SATA Controller Card -

*Operating Systems Supported:* Windows 98 / ME / NT4.0 / 2K
/ XP

/ 2003 Linux (SuSE, Red Hat), and FreeBSD


It looks to me like a $15 or $20 card ought to work by just
plugging it in without Windows but I need reassurance.


Does anyone know for certain?

Bob




Run away from that card, supported by linux typically means that
they include

a driver in the box.

Any of the Sil* based cards should work, and should be really really
cheap (<$30).


Roger

Yes, that's what I thought but I have been reluctant to order one
until someone verified it.


I'll pick one from Newegg's list and order it this afternoon. They
show a bunch of them. Most limited to 1.5 gB/s. The drive I bought
is spec'd for 3 gigs but I noticed it came jumpered for 1.5? Don't
know what the one I removed is rated for. But it has the /boot/ file
on it and it would make my life easier to just use it.


So far I am quite happy with F-9, even sound works once I got the
speaker plug in the right jack, no pulse audio problem here.


Tnx.

Bob


1.5 or 3 won't matter. It is unlikely the drive itself will overload
the 1.5
stuff. The best (they cost quite a bit more-WD Raptors) drives top
out at sustained rates of 100MB/second (about 1.0 Gbps), normal drives
only do about 60-75MB/second, and likely if you put multiple drives on
those boards you will
hit the PCI bus limit which is lower than 1.5Gbps (132MB/second), so
it won't matter one bit what the actual SATA connection speed is.


Roger



The new drive is spec'd for 3 gb/s, not gB/s as I thought I read. The
ad people are playing the numbers game again.


However I plan on using the card for the old Windows drive which gets
little use anyway.


Thanks.

Bob











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Old 08-25-2008, 10:45 PM
Bob Goodwin
 
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g wrote:

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Bob Goodwin wrote:
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HighPoint ROCKETRAID1520 W/O PCI SATA Controller Card -
*Operating Systems Supported:* Windows 98 / ME / NT4.0 / 2K / XP
/ 2003 Linux (SuSE, Red Hat), and FreeBSD
It looks to me like a $15 or $20 card ought to work by just plugging it
in without Windows but I need reassurance.


Does anyone know for certain?



would google lie?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=HighPoint+ROCKETRAID1520&as_epq= &as_oq=&as_eq=&num=20&lr=lang_en&as_filetype=&ft=i &as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any& cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3 Dlinux=


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g
.
Yes, google gets a lot of use here but I didn't actually want that
card. I was just citing the example that they said they only supported
Windows which seems like it should not even be a consideration for an
sata controller?


Bob


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Old 08-26-2008, 02:07 AM
g
 
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Bob Goodwin wrote:
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> Yes, google gets a lot of use here but I didn't actually want that
> card. I was just citing the example that they said they only supported
> Windows which seems like it should not even be a consideration for an
> sata controller?

do not blame you there.

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g
.

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/
'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/
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