On Friday 15 August 2008 05:12:54 pm Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 20:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine: it
> > stops when the line
> >
> > GRUB
> >
> > appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am running
> > F9.
>
> ----
> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html
>
> Craig

and too much to expect upgrades to not screw up the boot process?

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On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 17:39 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2008 05:12:54 pm Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 20:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine: it
> > > stops when the line
> > >
> > > GRUB
> > >
> > > appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am running
> > > F9.
> >
> > ----
> > probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html
> >
> > Craig
>
> and too much to expect upgrades to not screw up the boot process?
----
no - and this is a second report but unless someone invests the time to
figure out why it happened (like Peterboy reported), then there's little
to be learned (and thus nothing to be fixed).

Craig

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On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
>> After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine: it
>> stops when the line
>>
>> GRUB
>>
>> appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am running F9.
> ----
> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html

I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried

# grub-install /dev/sda
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
#

Paul

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On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Craig White wrote:


On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 17:39 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2008 05:12:54 pm Craig White wrote:

On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 20:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
machine: it

stops when the line

GRUB

appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
running

F9.


----
probably too much to ask people to search the archives...

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/
msg01404.html


Craig


and too much to expect upgrades to not screw up the boot process?

----
no - and this is a second report but unless someone invests the
time to
figure out why it happened (like Peterboy reported), then there's
little

to be learned (and thus nothing to be fixed).


Update or upgrade?

If he's going from Fedora 8 to 9, yeah, he should be prepared to re-
install grub.


If he's just doing a yum update on a running Fedora 9, I would hope
that nothing in an update would muck with the boot sectors.



Craig

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On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White
<craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
machine: it

stops when the line

GRUB

appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
running F9.

----
probably too much to ask people to search the archives...

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html


I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried

# grub-install /dev/sda
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
#


Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.

How did you install?

And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
partitions with knoppix?




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On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White
> > <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> >>> After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
> >>> machine: it
> >>> stops when the line
> >>>
> >>> GRUB
> >>>
> >>> appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
> >>> running F9.
> >> ----
> >> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
> >>
> >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html
> >
> > I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
> > Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried
> >
> > # grub-install /dev/sda
> > Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
> > Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
> > #
>
> Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.
>
> How did you install?
>
> And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
> partitions with knoppix?
----
most importantly, he would have to chroot to get it to
install/find /boot

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On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Craig White wrote:


On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:

On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote:


On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White
<craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:

After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
machine: it
stops when the line

GRUB

appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
running F9.

----
probably too much to ask people to search the archives...

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/
msg01404.html


I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried

# grub-install /dev/sda
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
#


Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.

How did you install?

And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
partitions with knoppix?

----
most importantly, he would have to chroot to get it to
install/find /boot



Heh. I'd be likely to boot knoppix to download and burn the rescue CD
image. I always seem to take the long route around.


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On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:54 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Craig White wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White
> >>> <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> >>>>> After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
> >>>>> machine: it
> >>>>> stops when the line
> >>>>>
> >>>>> GRUB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
> >>>>> running F9.
> >>>> ----
> >>>> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/
> >>>> msg01404.html
> >>>
> >>> I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
> >>> Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried
> >>>
> >>> # grub-install /dev/sda
> >>> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
> >>> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
> >>> #
> >>
> >> Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.
> >>
> >> How did you install?
> >>
> >> And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
> >> partitions with knoppix?
> > ----
> > most importantly, he would have to chroot to get it to
> > install/find /boot
>
>
> Heh. I'd be likely to boot knoppix to download and burn the rescue CD
> image. I always seem to take the long route around.
----
given that the OP is asking, I would think that would be a much better
option for him since the rescue CD will automatically find the
partitions and set them up in /mnt/sysimage for him and thus, the steps
I outlined will work.

Otherwise, he will have to find the partitions, create the mount
point(s), mount them, chroot them and that is a lot more work.

Craig

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On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
>>>>>> machine: it
>>>>>> stops when the line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GRUB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
>>>>>> running F9.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html
>>>>
>>>> I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
>>>> Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried
>>>>
>>>> # grub-install /dev/sda
>>>> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
>>>> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
>>>> #
>>>
>>> Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.
>>>
>>> How did you install?
>>>
>>> And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
>>> partitions with knoppix?
>>
>> ----
>> most importantly, he would have to chroot to get it to
>> install/find /boot
>
>
> Heh. I'd be likely to boot knoppix to download and burn the rescue CD image.
> I always seem to take the long route around.

And is it possible, with Knoppix, to burn a CD with only one CD tray
(where the Knoppix disk is in)?

Paul

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On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Paul Smith <phhs80@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my
>>>>>>> machine: it
>>>>>>> stops when the line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GRUB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am
>>>>>>> running F9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> probably too much to ask people to search the archives...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not have any rescue/installation disk. Can it be done with
>>>>> Knoppix? If so, how? I have tried
>>>>>
>>>>> # grub-install /dev/sda
>>>>> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
>>>>> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
>>>>> #
>>>>
>>>> Well, let's hope that means grub left the drive alone.
>>>>
>>>> How did you install?
>>>>
>>>> And, if you've booted the box under knoppix, can you mount the
>>>> partitions with knoppix?
>>>
>>> ----
>>> most importantly, he would have to chroot to get it to
>>> install/find /boot
>>
>>
>> Heh. I'd be likely to boot knoppix to download and burn the rescue CD image.
>> I always seem to take the long route around.
>
> And is it possible, with Knoppix, to burn a CD with only one CD tray
> (where the Knoppix disk is in)?

Never mind, as I have found my F9 disk, and I could apply the trick
that Craig mentioned, and it worked well. Many thanks!

Paul

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