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Old 08-15-2008, 12:50 PM
"joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de"
 
Default weird dependency between openoffice.org from fedora and oxygen-openoffice in F9

I installed Oxygen-openoffice (not from the fedora repos) in F9.

Later on, "yum update" tried to update openoffice.org from the fedora repos!

I cancelled this, so that my oxygen software remained clean!

Question: Why did yum try to update the oxygen packages?

Installed rpms:
===============

rpm -qa '*openoffice.org*'
openoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-redhat-menus-2.4-9310.noarch
openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-testtool-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core05-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core01-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-extra-fonts-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core03-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-base-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-extra-gallery-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-onlineupdate-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core07-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core03u-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-extension-presentation-minimizer-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-javafilter-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core06-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core02-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-extension-report-builder-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-kde-integration-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core05u-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-headless-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-xsltfilter-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core04u-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core04-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-gnome-integration-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-core09-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-pyuno-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-math-2.4.1-9310.i586

yum tries to update:
====================
sudo yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* livna: rpm.livna.org
* fedora: gd.tuwien.ac.at
* updates: ftp.uni-kl.de
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to
be updated
--> Processing Dependency: libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3(UDK_3_0_0) for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_sal.so.3(UDK_3_0_0) for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_cppu.so.3 for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libstlport_gcc.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libtl680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libgo680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libsvt680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libsvx680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_cppu.so.3(UDK_3_0_0) for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3(UDK_3_0_0) for
package: openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libcomphelp4gcc3.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_sal.so.3(UDK_3.3) for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_sal.so.3 for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libbasegfx680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libvcl680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libxo680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3 for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: openoffice.org-core = 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 for
package: openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libutl680li.so for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3(UDK_3.1) for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter
--> Processing Dependency: libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3 for package:
openoffice.org-graphicfilter

---> Package openoffice.org-math.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-draw.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-writer.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: openoffice.org-writer2latex for package:
openoffice.org-writer
---> Package openoffice.org-javafilter.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be
updated

---> Package openoffice.org-base.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be
updated
---> Package openoffice.org-emailmerge.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be
updated

---> Package openoffice.org-pyuno.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-headless.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-impress.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package openoffice.org-core.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-writer2latex.i386 0:0.5-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:08 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default weird dependency between openoffice.org from fedora and oxygen-openoffice in F9

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:50:04 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:

> I installed Oxygen-openoffice (not from the fedora repos) in F9.
>
> Later on, "yum update" tried to update openoffice.org from the fedora repos!
>
> I cancelled this, so that my oxygen software remained clean!
>
> Question: Why did yum try to update the oxygen packages?
>
> Installed rpms:
> ===============
>
> rpm -qa '*openoffice.org*'
> openoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310.i586
> openoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310.i586

Can you do this query again but *including* the Epoch values?
$ rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'

> ---> Package openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i386 1:2.4.1-17.4.fc9 set to
> be updated

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Old 08-15-2008, 03:51 PM
"joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de"
 
Default weird dependency between openoffice.org from fedora and oxygen-openoffice in F9

Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:50:04 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:


I installed Oxygen-openoffice (not from the fedora repos) in F9.

Later on, "yum update" tried to update openoffice.org from the fedora repos!

I cancelled this, so that my oxygen software remained clean!

Question: Why did yum try to update the oxygen packages?

Installed rpms:
===============

rpm -qa '*openoffice.org*'
openoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310.i586


Can you do this query again but *including* the Epoch values?
$ rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'


Hi Michael, here they are:
==========================

rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'
(none)penoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-redhat-menus-2.4-9310
(none)penoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-testtool-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core05-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core01-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-extra-fonts-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core03-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-base-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-extra-gallery-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-onlineupdate-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core07-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core03u-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-extension-presentation-minimizer-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-javafilter-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core06-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core02-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-extension-report-builder-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-kde-integration-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core05u-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-headless-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-xsltfilter-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core04u-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core04-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-gnome-integration-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-core09-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-pyuno-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-math-2.4.1-9310

Regards

Joachim Backes <joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de>

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Old 08-15-2008, 04:18 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default weird dependency between openoffice.org from fedora and oxygen-openoffice in F9

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:51:37 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:

> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:50:04 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
> >
> >> I installed Oxygen-openoffice (not from the fedora repos) in F9.
> >>
> >> Later on, "yum update" tried to update openoffice.org from the fedora repos!
> >>
> >> I cancelled this, so that my oxygen software remained clean!
> >>
> >> Question: Why did yum try to update the oxygen packages?
> >>
> >> Installed rpms:
> >> ===============
> >>
> >> rpm -qa '*openoffice.org*'
> >> openoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310.i586
> >> openoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310.i586
> >
> > Can you do this query again but *including* the Epoch values?
> > $ rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'
>
> Hi Michael, here they are:
> ==========================
>
> rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'
> (none)penoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310
> (none)penoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310
^^^^^^
All have no Epoch, but the Fedora rpms of openoffice.org have Epoch 1 (you
can also see that in Yum's output -- it's the "1:" at the beginning).
Therefore they are considered as the "newer" packages. In RPM version
comparison, the hidden Epoch value is most-significant. Epoch comparison
overrides the result of ordinary version-release comparison. Highest
Epoch wins, and any non-zero Epoch wins over a missing Epoch.

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Old 08-15-2008, 05:33 PM
"joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de"
 
Default weird dependency between openoffice.org from fedora and oxygen-openoffice in F9

Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:51:37 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:


Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:50:04 +0200, joachim.backes@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:


I installed Oxygen-openoffice (not from the fedora repos) in F9.

Later on, "yum update" tried to update openoffice.org from the fedora repos!

I cancelled this, so that my oxygen software remained clean!

Question: Why did yum try to update the oxygen packages?

Installed rpms:
===============

rpm -qa '*openoffice.org*'
openoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310.i586
openoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310.i586

Can you do this query again but *including* the Epoch values?
$ rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'

Hi Michael, here they are:
==========================

rpm -qa --qf %{e}:%{n}-%{v}-%{r}
'*openoffice.org*'
(none)penoffice.org-core08-2.4.1-9310
(none)penoffice.org-emailmerge-2.4.1-9310

^^^^^^
All have no Epoch, but the Fedora rpms of openoffice.org have Epoch 1 (you
can also see that in Yum's output -- it's the "1:" at the beginning).
Therefore they are considered as the "newer" packages. In RPM version
comparison, the hidden Epoch value is most-significant. Epoch comparison
overrides the result of ordinary version-release comparison. Highest
Epoch wins, and any non-zero Epoch wins over a missing Epoch.



Hi Michael,

thanks for the explanation. As workaround, I put a

exclude=openoffice.org*

in /etc/yum.conf. That helped.

Regards

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