I've got Fedora 9 up and running multi-boot while I wait for time to
back up the data from Fedora 7 and install it properly.


I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems to
happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a message
digest check on the download, or doing other things that load the
system.


Sempron 2600, single processor, VIA KM400something+8237 chipset, 760M
RAM. Generic PS-2 mouse and keyboard.


I can plug in a USB mouse and use that, and sometimes plugging the
USB mouse in brings the PS2 mouse back, as well.


Anyone else noticing this kind of stuff?

(I'm not much on filing bug reports. Seems they're always changing
the front door, and I never can find my way around until after I've
solved the problem. So I'm hoping it's probably someplace I need to
tweak in X11, and I guess I'm being too lazy to go digging into the
X11 settings today.)


Joel Rees
(waiting for a 3+GHz ARM processor to come out,
to test Steve's willingness to switch again.)


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Joel Rees wrote:

I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems to
happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a message
digest check on the download, or doing other things that load the system.


Sempron 2600, single processor, VIA KM400something+8237 chipset, 760M
RAM. Generic PS-2 mouse and keyboard.


I can plug in a USB mouse and use that, and sometimes plugging the USB
mouse in brings the PS2 mouse back, as well.


In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file what is mouse protocol set to? I've seen
what I think you are describing when set to infrequently seen/used setting.
FWIW, the one I use most often is...


Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"



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Ed Greshko wrote:


Joel Rees wrote:

I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems to
happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a
message digest check on the download, or doing other things that
load the system.


Sempron 2600, single processor, VIA KM400something+8237 chipset,
760M RAM. Generic PS-2 mouse and keyboard.


I can plug in a USB mouse and use that, and sometimes plugging the
USB mouse in brings the PS2 mouse back, as well.



In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file what is mouse protocol set to?


No mouse definition in that file whatsoever.

I thought I'd ssh the whole file over to this box, to prove it, and
discovered in the process that, while the interface was set up
properly by the installer, the hosts file was set up to tell the
fedora 9 box that it was the external interface of my dsl router.


That boggled my mind enough that I forgot to take a copy of what I
found in /etc/hosts, so I'm going to have a hard time filing a decent
bug report on it.


And, in the process, I discovered that there seems to be an
intermittent bug in the language setup, such that I was not able to
switch from Japanese to English so I could make sure I understood the
firewall settings widget.


And, now, using one of the widgets instead of working directly on the
configuration file, I find that the box has forgotten what the dns
servers were, so the box is completely off line. And there's
something wedged in the firewall, as well, apparently, can't even
ping it.


I was going to start a rant about how I didn't expect Fedora 9 to be
rawhide, but I helped my wife with the laundry instead and have
calmed down a bit. This is, after all, the only way to figure out how
to deal with the new security model.


I expect that we'll end up proving that the whole idea of access
control lists is a specification level bug, but only time will tell,
and I really can't think of any other way of proving it is, other
than to subject a mixed technical user group like this to the spec.
Something good should shake out of the process, but it won't look
much like the theory they teach at school.


I've seen what I think you are describing when set to infrequently
seen/used setting. FWIW, the one I use most often is...

Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"



Thanks for reminding me where that file is. I found an example of the
mouse definition section on the web, but the problem now is getting
the box back on the web first.


I find myself wondering whether I should bother, though. If I've got
the time to nurse the box this way, maybe I should just go straight
to rawhide.


Thanks.
Joel Rees

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Tying up some loose threads as I have time --

On Aug 16, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Joel Rees wrote:


Ed Greshko wrote:


Joel Rees wrote:

I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems
to happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a
message digest check on the download, or doing other things that
load the system.


And it just got worse, both in Fedora 7 and Fedora 9.

Sempron 2600, single processor, VIA KM400something+8237 chipset,
760M RAM. Generic PS-2 mouse and keyboard.


I can plug in a USB mouse and use that, and sometimes plugging
the USB mouse in brings the PS2 mouse back, as well.



In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file what is mouse protocol set to?


No mouse definition in that file whatsoever.

[...]

I've seen what I think you are describing when set to infrequently
seen/used setting. FWIW, the one I use most often is...

Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"



Thanks for reminding me where that file is. I found an example of
the mouse definition section on the web, but the problem now is
getting the box back on the web first.


Oh, yeah, checking the box and letting the gui network manager or
whatever it was manage the network was something I mentioned finding
in another thread, and probably my fat fingers while I was dozing at
the keyboard were the culprit.


The out-of-control mouse was just a bad mouse. A little high-tech
wire-wiggling with a multimeter, then 5 cm. clipped off the end of
the wire, re-soldered, and it works fine. Flaking out with Fedora 9
appears to have been just a coincidence, or maybe some timing thing
in nine made it more sensitive there first.


More noise, my apologies.

Joel Rees

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