On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:20:35 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

> From reading the fc docs, it appears that this is the mailing list to
> send questions about installation of fedora core (in the case, FC9).

Correct.

> Before I send email,

*blink* And this initial inquiry was... a ham sandwich?

> I want to make sure I have the right mailing list
> and, if not, would please ask for advice about which mailing list I
> should be communicating with

Indeed, this is the place.

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On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:20 -0700, Paul Newell wrote:
> From reading the fc docs, it appears that this is the mailing list to
> send questions about installation of fedora core (in the case, FC9).
>
> Before I send email, I want to make sure I have the right mailing list
> and, if not, would please ask for advice about which mailing list I
> should be communicating with

It is the place, but it hasn't been Fedora Core for at least two
releases. It's just Fedora now (even though the rpm's have fc9 as part
of their name).

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Thanks for the "fedora core" -> "fedora" correction. And, to other
respondent, I could have phrase that "ham sandwich" better.


I have a couple systems running of FC5. I am trying to upgrade to Fedora
9. Haven't been able to get the Linux boxes to talk to internet, so I
downloaded the DVD FC9 iso on my Windows box. Ran sha1sum.exe per
download instructions to confirm it matched SHA1SUM pulled from Fedora site.


Burned a DVD. Actually two to be cautious. Verified both.

Put them in DVD/CD drive of Linux box. I ran the media check and it
successfully verified. Continuing on, the disk ejects with an error box
that say, in text in upper left, "ok" and has a button to push which
says, of course, "ok". Both DVDs do this and I tried on two different
Linux boxes. Let's just say I'm not getting too many hints out of the
process of what might be going on.


I then tried downloading Live CD, verifying, and putting in the same
DVD/CD drive on both machines. Appears to boot properly from CD on both
Linux boxes.


I looked at the install pages and it seems like my options, given I
don't have internet on the Linux yet, are to 1) DVD install/update, 2)
LiveCD install/update, 3) a 6 CD download install/update, or 4) a CD
with the rest on stick.


My questions are 1) "any suggestions on the DVD install failure", 2)
should I just use the LiveCD or should I try the 6 CD version, and 3) I
can't find the man pages on exactly where this flash image is ... I only
see the DVD and LiveCD.


I am being wary and checking on this forum first as I don't understand
what the current problem is and am trying to make sure I pick right path
of action in case there is "something odd" about my existing machines on
FC5 and/or the DVD (though how it can successfully verify media multiple
times and always error when actually starting install is unclear to me).


Linux boxes are HP x4000 and the DVD/CD drives are Lite-On DVD+-R
DH-20A3P-08, if it helps. I burned onto DVD-R since they should handle
both (?)


Thanks in advance for any advice,
Paul

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:20 -0700, Paul Newell wrote:

From reading the fc docs, it appears that this is the mailing list to
send questions about installation of fedora core (in the case, FC9).


Before I send email, I want to make sure I have the right mailing list
and, if not, would please ask for advice about which mailing list I
should be communicating with



It is the place, but it hasn't been Fedora Core for at least two
releases. It's just Fedora now (even though the rpm's have fc9 as part
of their name).

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Frank:

Re-reading the post I just sent on FC9 install, my wording on trying to
respond to the ham sandwich failed again. I meant to say my original
letter was poorly worded and yes, I ended up sending a "ham sandwich".


Frank Cox wrote:

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:20:35 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:


From reading the fc docs, it appears that this is the mailing list to
send questions about installation of fedora core (in the case, FC9).



Correct.



Before I send email,



*blink* And this initial inquiry was... a ham sandwich?


I want to make sure I have the right mailing list
and, if not, would please ask for advice about which mailing list I
should be communicating with



Indeed, this is the place.




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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:25:25 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

> the disk ejects with an error box
> that say, in text in upper left, "ok" and has a button to push which
> says, of course, "ok". Both DVDs do this and I tried on two different
> Linux boxes. Let's just say I'm not getting too many hints out of the
> process of what might be going on.

My first step toward a solution in your situation would be to check the other
virtual terminals and see what they tell you. One of them will likely have an
error message.

And don't forget to keep that ham sandwich in the fridge if you're not
planning to eat it right away. Safety first and all that.

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Frank:

What other virtual terminals? I looks to me like it is in single user
mode trying to boot from DVD and I think I "just have the existing
screen". Is there some way to get additional information at the point of
error that I am unaware of (I've never done an FC/Fedora install so I'm
a total newbie at this)


Ham sandwich is safe in sealed bag in refrigerator, ready to be dropped
in another email when I accidentally mangle the English language again ...


Thanks,
Paul

Frank Cox wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:25:25 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:


the disk ejects with an error box
that say, in text in upper left, "ok" and has a button to push which
says, of course, "ok". Both DVDs do this and I tried on two different
Linux boxes. Let's just say I'm not getting too many hints out of the
process of what might be going on.



My first step toward a solution in your situation would be to check the other
virtual terminals and see what they tell you. One of them will likely have an
error message.

And don't forget to keep that ham sandwich in the fridge if you're not
planning to eat it right away. Safety first and all that.




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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:34:43 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

> What other virtual terminals? I looks to me like it is in single user
> mode trying to boot from DVD and I think I "just have the existing
> screen". Is there some way to get additional information at the point of
> error that I am unaware of (I've never done an FC/Fedora install so I'm
> a total newbie at this)

Ctrl-alt-F1 (F2,F3...)

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Never knew about those ... thanks ... will try later this afternoon and
see if it can explain what happened.


Frank Cox wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:34:43 -0700
Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:


What other virtual terminals? I looks to me like it is in single user
mode trying to boot from DVD and I think I "just have the existing
screen". Is there some way to get additional information at the point of
error that I am unaware of (I've never done an FC/Fedora install so I'm
a total newbie at this)



Ctrl-alt-F1 (F2,F3...)




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On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 13:25 -0700, Paul Newell wrote:
>
> Put them in DVD/CD drive of Linux box. I ran the media check and it
> successfully verified. Continuing on, the disk ejects with an error
> box
> that say, in text in upper left, "ok" and has a button to push which
> says, of course, "ok". Both DVDs do this and I tried on two different
> Linux boxes. Let's just say I'm not getting too many hints out of the
> process of what might be going on.
I am not sure this is still true but it used to be that ctrl-Alt-F3
would give error messages during installation.

So:
1. What error messages were generated during the "continuing on" phase,
especially just before the disk ejected/
2. If you type ctrl-alt-F3 a the point the disk ejects what error do you
see?
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Aside from ejecting and the error box with "ok", nothing; but I am going
to try again with control-alt-f3 to see if I can get more information.


Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 13:25 -0700, Paul Newell wrote:

Put them in DVD/CD drive of Linux box. I ran the media check and it
successfully verified. Continuing on, the disk ejects with an error
box
that say, in text in upper left, "ok" and has a button to push which
says, of course, "ok". Both DVDs do this and I tried on two different
Linux boxes. Let's just say I'm not getting too many hints out of the
process of what might be going on.


I am not sure this is still true but it used to be that ctrl-Alt-F3
would give error messages during installation.

So:
1. What error messages were generated during the "continuing on" phase,
especially just before the disk ejected/
2. If you type ctrl-alt-F3 a the point the disk ejects what error do you
see?
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