Hi,

I'm a Red Hat developer, and completely new to this list, so forgive
my ignorance. I like the "blue" themes that Fedora has traditionally
chosen, but I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its
main background screen. As an amateur photographer, I have several
"scenery" photos I've taken that may be suitable, and I'm willing to
donate. Some even have a nice blue theme. For example:

http://www.robertpeterson.org/Ecuador2007/2007Jun01/img_8435.800.jpg

(This is only 800x600, but the originals are much higher resolution)
In theory, this photo or others could be used "as is" or even
"Fedorafied" to add the symbols the Fedora community desires.

Regards,

Bob Peterson
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On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 04:24:57PM -0500, Bob Peterson wrote:
> I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its
> main background screen. As an amateur photographer, I have several
> "scenery" photos I've taken that may be suitable, and I'm willing to
> donate. Some even have a nice blue theme. For example:
>
Very nice

I'm sure this will spark a major discussion on whether photography,
realism, or abstract art is better for the Fedora wallpapers. I,
personally, am for abstract art, namely because I think Linux is more
abstract than other operating systems. (Not that it makes it bad or
anything)

I wouldn't be against photography or realism as wallpaper, though. I
just have a strong preference for abstract stuff.

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The air balloons in one of the earlier releases were very nice.

Hylke

2008/8/7 Ian Weller <ianweller@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 04:24:57PM -0500, Bob Peterson wrote:

> I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its

> main background screen. *As an amateur photographer, I have several

> "scenery" photos I've taken that may be suitable, and I'm willing to

> donate. *Some even have a nice blue theme. *For example:

>

Very nice



I'm sure this will spark a major discussion on whether photography,

realism, or abstract art is better for the Fedora wallpapers. I,

personally, am for abstract art, namely because I think Linux is more

abstract than other operating systems. (Not that it makes it bad or

anything)



I wouldn't be against photography or realism as wallpaper, though. I

just have a strong preference for abstract stuff.



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Personally, i think that we need a package of addtional wallpapers for fedora, not just the generic gnome ones...

the shot of clouds by andyfitz on flickr is a prime candidate for this pack IMHO, as is Bob's shot...


Andy's Photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/2366301782/

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On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 04:24:57PM -0500, Bob Peterson wrote:

> I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its

> main background screen. *As an amateur photographer, I have several

> "scenery" photos I've taken that may be suitable, and I'm willing to

> donate. *Some even have a nice blue theme. *For example:

>

Very nice



I'm sure this will spark a major discussion on whether photography,

realism, or abstract art is better for the Fedora wallpapers. I,

personally, am for abstract art, namely because I think Linux is more

abstract than other operating systems. (Not that it makes it bad or

anything)



I wouldn't be against photography or realism as wallpaper, though. I

just have a strong preference for abstract stuff.



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On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 16:24 -0500, Bob Peterson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Red Hat developer, and completely new to this list, so forgive
> my ignorance. I like the "blue" themes that Fedora has traditionally
> chosen, but I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its
> main background screen.

This might be a good occasion to point at Jon McCanns comparative study
of desktop backgrounds in various OSs again:

http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/art/State%20of%20the%20Art%20-%20Wallpapers
%20(2008-05-29).pdf

There is certainly something to be said for getting out of the 'box'
we're in with abstract backgrounds...


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On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:34:15AM +1000, ryan lerch wrote:
> Personally, i think that we need a package of addtional wallpapers for
> fedora, not just the generic gnome ones...
>
Gah, I neglected to mention this! Yes. A higher resolution would be much
better though -- these days, 800x600 doesn't cut it

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Here's another photo I took. This one has nice blue Fedora-like
colors and shows the top side of a jellyfish. The symbol on the
back of the jellyfish is pretty close to the Fedora infinity symbol;
it could be morphed into one pretty easily by some creative soul
with tools. (This photo has not been doctored). Caution: It is 1.5MB.

http://www.robertpeterson.org/PICT0085.JPG

It's not perfectly in focus, but I might be able to find others
like it in my collection. I realize the need to not be too
"cluttered" in background photos.

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Bob Peterson wrote:

I'm a Red Hat developer, and completely new to this list, so forgive
my ignorance. I like the "blue" themes that Fedora has traditionally
chosen, but I was wondering if Fedora could have a photo for its
main background screen. As an amateur photographer, I have several
"scenery" photos I've taken that may be suitable, and I'm willing to
donate. Some even have a nice blue theme.


I tend to agree with Ryan: we should have a pack of additional, maybe
photographic, wallpapers.
In the past I talked about havind even some king of online gallery where
we could post tons of images and any user can find something of his
liking (for an additional kick: rss feeds, ratings, comments)



(This is only 800x600, but the originals are much higher resolution)


One of the advantages of "abstract" art as a default is that it can be
resized to norma or wide screens, can be used on CD covers, web buttons
and banners, T-shirts... so we can easily have a consistent identity.



In theory, this photo or others could be used "as is" or even
"Fedorafied" to add the symbols the Fedora community desires.


The general thought is against "fedorification", so if we will use
photos will most likely leave them unbranded.


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Bob Peterson wrote:

Here's another photo I took. This one has nice blue Fedora-like
colors and shows the top side of a jellyfish. The symbol on the
back of the jellyfish is pretty close to the Fedora infinity symbol;
it could be morphed into one pretty easily by some creative soul
with tools. (This photo has not been doctored). Caution: It is 1.5MB.

http://www.robertpeterson.org/PICT0085.JPG


That's a nice one. And very "Fedora". And not hard to re-create with
vectors.



It's not perfectly in focus, but I might be able to find others
like it in my collection. I realize the need to not be too
"cluttered" in background photos.


We are past the first round for F10, when we were supposed to gather
concepts (and we have a lot of concepts submitted). Probably the best is
that an original concept to be submitted for F11 (when we'll get to that).


But, of course, that does not stop us talking about using photos versus
drawings, is an interesting talk and I would like to hear more opinions
about that.


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On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 02:50 +0200, Hylke Bons wrote:
> The air balloons in one of the earlier releases were very nice.

I agree, but as a corollary, the amount of detail and color made it less
usable as a background. Icons and text tended to get lost in the
detailed areas. The effect was worse on people whose eyesight isn't
perfect, or on laptop screens that aren't superbright.

That being said, I liked the picture itself just as a thing of beauty.
But I am a HUGE fan of the newer background for Fedora 9, which, while
abstract, is just really attractive.

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