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08-06-2008, 10:01 AM
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Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?
> For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has it's own TV
> show and theme song[1]:
>
> Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
> Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
http://lwn.net/Articles/257634/
Alan
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08-06-2008, 10:44 AM
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Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 10:01 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has it's own TV
> > show and theme song[1]:
> >
> > Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
> > Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/257634/
>
> Alan
Really wish I'd had little less tea to drink before reading that...
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08-06-2008, 12:50 PM
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Fedora Infinity: A Dumb Question?
Andrew Kelly wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 22:14 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:36 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote:
I have always wondered why it is necessary to issue a new version of Fedora
(or any other OS every 6 months). Why cannot an OS be like a river, constantly
flowing and always being the latest edition, with a simple yum update. Cannot
programs clean up after themselves, leaving no cruft, so that this would be
possible? That way, one could jump on the infinite Fedora flow at any time and
always have the latest version of all programs. What forces the necessity to
stop a particular version and recreate all the software and redo all of the
old mistakes that were already fixed and issue a new version?
That is called Debian Sid.
And in a mildly tamed version, Sidux.
"Mildly" being the operative term: http://sidux.com/Article446.html
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08-06-2008, 01:04 PM
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On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 12:50 +0100, Michael C wrote:
> Andrew Kelly wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 22:14 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:36 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have always wondered why it is necessary to issue a new version of Fedora
> >>> (or any other OS every 6 months). Why cannot an OS be like a river, constantly
> >>> flowing and always being the latest edition, with a simple yum update. Cannot
> >>> programs clean up after themselves, leaving no cruft, so that this would be
> >>> possible? That way, one could jump on the infinite Fedora flow at any time and
> >>> always have the latest version of all programs. What forces the necessity to
> >>> stop a particular version and recreate all the software and redo all of the
> >>> old mistakes that were already fixed and issue a new version?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> That is called Debian Sid.
> >>
> >
> > And in a mildly tamed version, Sidux.
>
> "Mildly" being the operative term: http://sidux.com/Article446.html
:-)
Yeah, that one busted my chops, too. But I was running virtual, and had
a snapshot to fall back on.
In all fairness, though, that was the first "Kablooey" I experienced in
the half year or so I've been playing with it.
A
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08-06-2008, 02:33 PM
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Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>> For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has it's own TV
>> show and theme song[1]:
>>
>> Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
>> Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/257634/
>
> Alan
That's wonderful Alan!
Well Done!
Marc
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08-06-2008, 05:42 PM
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--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz@comcast.net> wrote:
> For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has
> it's own TV
> show and theme song[1]:
>
> Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em
> out,
> Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc Schwartz
>
> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawhide_(TV_series)
>
Or... John Bulushi and Dan Akroid singing it at the Country _and_ Western bar in "The Blues Brothers"
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08-06-2008, 10:25 PM
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On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 01:45 -0300, Armin wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 August 2008 23:50:19 kwhiskerz wrote:
> > That was a lot of answers. I guess I get the drift. I have tried Rawhide,
> > but found it too much work, except when it gets close to a release and I
> > just can't wait any longer. It sure would be nice if one didn't have to
> > keep reinstalling twice a year and still have the latest. Well, someone,
> > someday may figure it out. Rawhide is not for me. Too much work.
> the thing about Fedora or any other Linux distro is that you don't have to
> reinstall it everyday like Windows (or every week if you're lucky). You can
> just have one installation for years. For that, refer to yum upgrade. you
> don't have to reinstall the whole thing! just upgrade it 
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>
I have not used preupgrade but historically the result of upgrading has
not been very satisfactory. Many posts on fedora-list have made this
clear. And of course there is a limited time before upgrading is no
longer supported.
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08-06-2008, 11:48 PM
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On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 16:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 01:45 -0300, Armin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 August 2008 23:50:19 kwhiskerz wrote:
> > > That was a lot of answers. I guess I get the drift. I have tried Rawhide,
> > > but found it too much work, except when it gets close to a release and I
> > > just can't wait any longer. It sure would be nice if one didn't have to
> > > keep reinstalling twice a year and still have the latest. Well, someone,
> > > someday may figure it out. Rawhide is not for me. Too much work.
> > the thing about Fedora or any other Linux distro is that you don't have to
> > reinstall it everyday like Windows (or every week if you're lucky). You can
> > just have one installation for years. For that, refer to yum upgrade. you
> > don't have to reinstall the whole thing! just upgrade it 
> > --
> > Armin
> >
> I have not used preupgrade but historically the result of upgrading has
> not been very satisfactory. Many posts on fedora-list have made this
> clear. And of course there is a limited time before upgrading is no
> longer supported.
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I have used preupgrade and it worked.
But preupgrade wasn't what Armin recommended or talked about.
Craig
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08-07-2008, 08:02 AM
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On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 02:10 +0000, g wrote:
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> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> <snip>
> > Rawhide will not show you pictures of
> > Bush blowing a bugle and leading a charge by Dick Chaney, John Ashcroft,
> > and John McCain to eat baklava confiscated from an Iraqi village.
>
> why would they be confiscating baklava from an iraqi village?
> do think iraqi's may have stolen it from a greek?
>
> or are you saying they are too cheap to by their own?
>
> not necessary when you can get it from any greek just by asking.
> and at a reasonable price from a greek bakery/pastry shop.
>
> we greeks are proud of our pastry. if you like, i will be glad
> to send you a recipe so you can make your own.
My first wife was Greek. Never get into a property settlement with a
Greek gal. They'll cut your heart out and leave you bleeding in the
street for dead, after kicking you in the head for good measure. <grins>
Ric
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08-07-2008, 02:19 PM
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Ric Moore wrote:
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> My first wife was Greek. Never get into a property settlement with a
> Greek gal. They'll cut your heart out and leave you bleeding in the
> street for dead, after kicking you in the head for good measure. <grins>
> Ric
lol.
for sure. and now you know one more thing about 'pure blood'.
a greek female will go after it one way or another.  ))
so how was her kolyva? as sweet as her baklava?
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