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Old 08-03-2008, 06:51 PM
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
known for being a multi-operating-system "virus"-platform?

There's a simple answer for you, just install Mirů!

You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a terminal
account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like this:

[rms@nietzche ~]$ yum -v search miro
Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Config time: 0.287
Yum Version: 3.2.17
COMMAND: yum -v search miro
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

miro
Setting up Package Sacks
pkgsack time: 0.904
Reading Local RPMDB
rpmdb time: 0.001
================================================== ===============================================
Matched: miro
================================================== ===============================================
Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
Matched from:
Description : Miro is a free application that turns your computer into
an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta version, which
means that there are some bugs, but we're moving quickly to fix
: them and will be releasing bug fixes on a regular basis.
URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
[rms@nietzche ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@nietzche ~]# yum install Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for package: Miro
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arq. Vers„o Repository
Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
Miro i386 1.2.4-2.fc9 updates 6.6 M
Installing for dependencies:
gnome-python2-gtkmozembed i386 2.19.1-17.fc9 updates 30 k

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 2 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 6.6 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm | 30 kB 00:00
(2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm | 6.6 MB 00:07
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed [1/2]
Installing : Miro [2/2]

Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Complete!

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Old 08-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Antonio Olivares
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

> So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to
> install
> proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin,
> so well
> known for being a multi-operating-system
> "virus"-platform?
>
> There's a simple answer for you, just install Mirů!
>
> You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a
> terminal
> account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like
> this:
>
> [rms@nietzche ~]$ yum -v search miro
> Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Config time: 0.287
> Yum Version: 3.2.17
> COMMAND: yum -v search miro
> Installroot: /
> Ext Commands:
>
> miro
> Setting up Package Sacks
> pkgsack time: 0.904
> Reading Local RPMDB
> rpmdb time: 0.001
> ================================================== ===============================================
> Matched: miro
> ================================================== ===============================================
> Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
> Matched from:
> Description : Miro is a free application that turns your
> computer into
> an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta
> version, which
> means that there are some bugs, but we're moving
> quickly to fix
> : them and will be releasing bug fixes on a
> regular basis.
> URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
> [rms@nietzche ~]$ su -
> Password:
> [root@nietzche ~]# yum install Miro
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for
> package: Miro
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
> 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
> updated
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>
> Dependencies Resolved
>
> ================================================== ===========================
> Package Arq. Vers„o
> Repository
> Size
> ================================================== ===========================
> Installing:
> Miro i386 1.2.4-2.fc9
> updates 6.6 M
> Installing for dependencies:
> gnome-python2-gtkmozembed i386 2.19.1-17.fc9
> updates 30 k
>
> Transaction Summary
> ================================================== ===========================
> Install 2 Package(s)
> Update 0 Package(s)
> Remove 0 Package(s)
>
> Total download size: 6.6 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> (1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm |
> 30 kB 00:00
> (2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm |
> 6.6 MB 00:07
> Running rpm_check_debug
> Running Transaction Test
> Finished Transaction Test
> Transaction Test Succeeded
> Running Transaction
> Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> [1/2]
> Installing : Miro
> [2/2]
>
> Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
> Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
> 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
> Complete!
>
> --
> This statement is false.
> Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the
> YOLD 3174
> + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
> + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
> | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi
> + So let's do it...?
>
> --

Rui,

First, thank you for sharing this!
Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?
Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?
This will make /me think about getting it.

[olivares@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.26.1 #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[olivares@localhost ~]$
[olivares@localhost ~]$ dmesg | more
Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Linux version 2.6.26.1 (olivares@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 4.3.0 20080
428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008


Regards,

Antonio




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Old 08-03-2008, 07:58 PM
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:46:09PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> First, thank you for sharing this!
>
> Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?

Unfortunately I don't have any x86_64 machine with Fedora, right now,
but since I have seen Mirů playing you tube videos on a x86_64 mahcine
in Ubuntu, I exepect it will also work in Fedora for x86_64

> Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?

Erms... what do you mean?

/me scratches his head... remembers whi he has adblock and NoScript!

I don't think it installs any Firefox plugin...

> This will make /me think about getting it.

Try, at worst case you'll have wasted a few mega bytes of download and a
few minutes

Rui

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Old 08-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Antonio Olivares
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

> > First, thank you for sharing this!
> >
> > Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64
> machine(s) running Fedora 9?
>
> Unfortunately I don't have any x86_64 machine with
> Fedora, right now,
> but since I have seen Mirů playing you tube videos on a
> x86_64 mahcine
> in Ubuntu, I exepect it will also work in Fedora for x86_64
I have installed it

[olivares@localhost ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@localhost ~]# yum list miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
updates | 2.3 kB 00:00
fedora | 2.4 kB 00:01
Error: No matching Packages to list
[root@localhost ~]# yum list Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Miro.x86_64 1.2.4-2.fc9 updates
[root@localhost ~]# yum install Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package Miro.x86_64 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for package: Miro
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-17.fc9 for package: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-15.fc9 for package: gnome-python2-gtkhtml2
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-15.fc9 for package: gnome-python2-libegg
---> Package gnome-python2-extras.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package gnome-python2-libegg.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
Miro x86_64 1.2.4-2.fc9 updates 6.6 M
Updating:
gnome-python2-extras x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9 updates 50 k
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9 updates 18 k
gnome-python2-libegg x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9 updates 58 k
Installing for dependencies:
gnome-python2-gtkmozembed x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9 updates 31 k

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 2 Package(s)
Update 3 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 6.8 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/5): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 6.6 MB 21:36
(2/5): gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 18 kB 00:02
(3/5): gnome-python2-libegg-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 58 kB 00:10
(4/5): gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 50 kB 00:08
(5/5): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rp | 31 kB 00:05
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Updating : gnome-python2-extras ######################### [1/8]
Installing: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed ######################### [2/8]
Updating : gnome-python2-libegg ######################### [3/8]
Updating : gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 ######################### [4/8]
Installing: Miro ######################### [5/8]
Cleanup : gnome-python2-extras ######################### [6/8]
Cleanup : gnome-python2-libegg ######################### [7/8]
Cleanup : gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 ######################### [8/8]

Installed: Miro.x86_64 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Updated: gnome-python2-extras.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 gnome-python2-libegg.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Complete!
[root@localhost ~]#

>
> > Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in
> Firefox/Google, etc?
>
> Erms... what do you mean?
>
> /me scratches his head... remembers whi he has adblock and
> NoScript!
>
> I don't think it installs any Firefox plugin...
Yes it does not! You are correct
>
> > This will make /me think about getting it.
>
> Try, at worst case you'll have wasted a few mega bytes
> of download and a
> few minutes

Yep that was it

>
> Rui
>
> --

I visted a site that requires flash and I get the following:

You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?

Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you tube called the Root of all Evil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc

and I get

Root of All Evil pt1
Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player

This might have to do, with not having the proprietary codecs or other stuff like that

But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on i686 machine and maybe there it will work.

Regards,

Antonio




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Old 08-03-2008, 08:50 PM
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:38:32PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> I visted a site that requires flash and I get the following:
>
> You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?

It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia application for your
viewing pleasures

> Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you tube called the Root of all Evil
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc

For that video, just put it's video id code ( X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
field and tell Mirů to search on YouTube.

> But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on i686 machine and maybe there it will work.

I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the browser, it's
another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu...

Rui

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Old 08-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Antonio Olivares
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

> It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia
> application for your
> viewing pleasures
Yes
>
> > Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you
> tube called the Root of all Evil
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc
>
> For that video, just put it's video id code (
> X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
> field and tell Mirů to search on YouTube.
>
> > But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on
> i686 machine and maybe there it will work.
>
> I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the
> browser, it's
> another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu...
>
Yes it is there, but it hangs while loading . It is not working correctly. Thank you anyhow for sharing this tool
>
> Rui
>
> --

Regards,

Antonio




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Old 08-04-2008, 03:00 AM
Tim
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:51 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
> proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
> known for being a multi-operating-system "virus"-platform?
>
> There's a simple answer for you, just install Mirů!

One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
proprietary content? Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
hood? Is it really going to be any better at playing "risky" content?

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Old 08-04-2008, 05:20 AM
"Joonas Sarajšrvi"
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

2008/8/4 Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au>:

> One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
> proprietary content? Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
> hood? Is it really going to be any better at playing "risky" content?
>
I think Miro uses the free Xine library to view content. Many of the
decoder are possibly patent-encumbered, but they are licensed under a
free software licenses and available in Livna, unlike the proprietary
Adobe browser plugin.

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Old 08-04-2008, 07:51 AM
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
 
Default How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:20:18AM +0300, Joonas Sarajšrvi wrote:
> 2008/8/4 Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au>:
>
> > One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
> > proprietary content? Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
> > hood? Is it really going to be any better at playing "risky" content?
> >
> I think Miro uses the free Xine library to view content. Many of the
> decoder are possibly patent-encumbered, but they are licensed under a
> free software licenses and available in Livna, unlike the proprietary
> Adobe browser plugin.

[rms@nietzche ~]$ rpm -qi Miro
Name : Miro Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.2.4 Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 2.fc9 Build Date: Sex 18 Jul 2008 22:49:59 WEST
Install Date: Dom 03 Ago 2008 19:49:04 WEST Build Host: x86-5
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM: Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.src.rpm
Size : 22429793 License: GPLv2+
Signature : DSA/SHA1, Seg 21 Jul 2008 21:56:28 WEST, Key ID b44269d04f2a6fd2
Packager : Fedora Project
URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
Summary : Miro - Internet TV Player
Description :
Miro is a free application that turns your computer into an
internet TV video player. This release is still a beta version, which means
that there are some bugs, but we're moving quickly to fix them and will be
releasing bug fixes on a regular basis.


Not a livna version, neither the current libxine. Both RPMS are from
Fedora.

The thing is that I think flv is a container (I might be wrong) but the
codecs within may be (or not) supported.

With Mirů, though, most problems I had were of reaching a youtube server
whose DB replica doesn't yet have the video I searched

Rui

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