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Old 08-01-2008, 01:32 AM
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Default fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 308

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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: help for .vcr files needed (Bill Davidsen)
> 2. Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9? (Antonio Olivares)
> 3. Re: Two different users on the same machine (Bill Davidsen)
> 4. Re: Two different users on the same machine (Bill Davidsen)
> 5. Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 307 (M.kanno)
> 6. Re: PAE kernel and 4GB of memory (Bill Davidsen)
> 7. Re: PAE kernel and 4GB of memory (Bill Davidsen)
> 8. What will be the codename for Fedora 10? (Antonio Olivares)
> 9. Re: How to swee youtube videos, (Aaron Konstam)
> 10. Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9? (Andras Simon)
> 11. Re: What will be the codename for Fedora 10? (Rahul Sundaram)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:25:46 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: help for .vcr files needed
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <4892580A.7090800@tmr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Amitakhya Phukan wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I have got some lectures downloaded from a University. They are all rar
> > files. Upon extracting them, I got .VCR files. How to play them ? When I
> > contacted them, they said extract the files using unrar (which I did),
> > and then use Java Participant Application to play them. They suggest
> > AT&T Participant application for Windows platform.
> >
> I would try mplayer and/or ffmpeg for this, using the "bad" codecs from
> livna repository. Seems to me I've seen this, but I don't remember the
> details.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <896550.37405.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> > How do I install emacs to Fedora9?
>
> # yum install emacs
>
> > or is there another recommended editor?
> There is vi, it might be installed by default.
>
> You may also have kedit if you use KDE, or gedit if you use GNOME. You have
many choices.
>
> >
> > one other thing, I like the C formatting style:
> >
> >
> > if( x )
> > [ tab ]{
> > [ tab ]x = y ;
> > [ tab ]y = z ;
> > [ tab ]while( 1 )
> > [ tab ][ tab ]{
> > [ tab ][ tab ]printf( "?" ) ;
> > [ tab ][ tab ]}
> > [ tab ]}
> >
> > where { and } are in the same column, and each level of
> > nesting
> >
> > is another [ tab ]
> >
> > the code between 2 { and } chars is in the same column as
> > the { and }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > with Fedora 3 I couldnt find how to get that on emacs,
> >
> >
> > is there a way to get that formatting with emacs (which I
> > havent yet gotten
> > installed
> >
> > on Fedora 9) ?
> If you install emacs, then you would have to play around with it so that it
can do what you want. I have used it sparingly. I prefer to
use kedit or
gedit as they are easier to work with. I have used vi a little
bit more, but
I am not an expert
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
> Regards.
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:36:31 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: Two different users on the same machine
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48925A8F.4070909@tmr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Paul Smith wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am running XFCE on F9, and I would like to know how to allow two
> > different users to login on my machine at the same time. On F8, I
> > remember a menu entry
> >
> > System --> New Login
> >
> > but I cannot find it on F9.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> I'm not sure I understand the problem... You have a user coming in (over
> network?) and they can't login? Or what?
>
> If you just wan't a session as another user, you use
> "xterm -e su - USER2" &
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:36:31 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: Two different users on the same machine
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <48925A8F.4070909@tmr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> Paul Smith wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am running XFCE on F9, and I would like to know how to allow two
> > different users to login on my machine at the same time. On F8, I
> > remember a menu entry
> >
> > System --> New Login
> >
> > but I cannot find it on F9.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> I'm not sure I understand the problem... You have a user coming in (over
> network?) and they can't login? Or what?
>
> If you just wan't a session as another user, you use
> "xterm -e su - USER2" &
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:47:33 +0900
> From: "M.kanno" <kanno.mitsuhiko@nttcom-hokkaido.co.jp>
> Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 307
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID:
> <200808010947.GDI05275.PBLINTOLUOJuVPJ@nttcom-hokkaido.co.jp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp
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> <20080801001910.B8C8F619EB0@hormel.redhat.com> の、
> "fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 307" において、
> "fedora-list-request@redhat.com"さんは書きました:
>
> もうメールはいりません
>
>
>
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> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Any LiveCD/USB experts in the house? (Richard Shaw)
> > 2. Re: awstats munged httpd rights in SElinux, how to fix?
> > (Gene Heskett)
> > 3. Re: awstats munged httpd rights in SElinux, how to fix?
> > (Gene Heskett)
> > 4. RE: Welcome to the "fedora-list" mailing list (Digest mode)
> > (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> > 5. Re: Where do you get your servers? (Sam Varshavchik)
> > 6. Re: livcecd-iso-to-disk: USB key do not boot (BIOS setup is
> > fine) (Bruno Costacurta)
> > 7. Re: Where do you get your servers? (fchan)
> > 8. How to swee youtube videos, (Aaron Konstam)
> > 9. Re: How to swee youtube videos, (Antonio Olivares)
> > 10. Re: association of applications with media (Aaron Konstam)
> > 11. Re: Where do you get your servers? (Robert F. Chapman)
> > 12. How to install emacs on Fedora9? (whoosh)
> > 13. Re: How to swee youtube videos, (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> > 14. Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9? (Sam Varshavchik)
> > 15. Re: Where to get 64-bit Fedora 9 DVD (whoosh)
> > 16. Re: help for .vcr files needed (Bill Davidsen)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:22:33 -0500
> > From: "Richard Shaw" <hobbes1069@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Any LiveCD/USB experts in the house?
> > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <373c76480807311422i3996655er9093176f43c40f30@mail .gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm@atrpms.net>
> >
> > > Not really a direct answer (I'd wish I were a LiveCD/USB expert to
> > > help out), but maybe these questions are better targeted at the real
> > > experts gathered at fedora-livecd-list? See
> > >
> > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
> > >
> > > Some are certainly on this list, but your questions may get lost here
> > > in the higher volume list.
> > > --
> > > Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, I didn't even know there was one just for the livecd...
> >
> > Richard
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:41:44 -0400
> > From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: awstats munged httpd rights in SElinux, how to fix?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <200807311741.44989.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > On Thursday 31 July 2008, Tim wrote:
> > >Tim:
> > >>> Sounds more like Apache problems, not AWStats, this is Apache failing
to
> > >>> start. AWStats just reads the logs, *separately*. As a regular cron
> > >>> job, as I recall. Though it can be fired up on demand.
> > >
> > >Gene Heskett:
> > [...]
> > >AWStats produces a set of webpages with statistics that you can login
> > >and view. See the screenshots on <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/>.
> > >
> > [...]
> >
> > >NB: I've done this with a spinning headache, so you ought to be able to
> > >manage this as well, without my headache.
> >
> > ouch, like my aching back, thats not good at all, mine is from 70+ years
of
> > abuse & 25 extra pounds, does your's have a reason?
> > [...]
> > >I mention an alternative stats program, since webalizer seems to be
> > >installed by default, and it can be handy to have a look at more than
> > >one analyzer, to see which results you like reading better.
> >
> > I see that is installed, but finding a viewer for it seems to be purely by

> > accident, it opened ELinks, whatever that is, when I clicked on its july
> > report from within midnight commander.
> >
> > Grumble... Question for the webalizer folks then? Why is there not a
link
> to
> > the viewer in the k-menu's?
> >
> > Having it installed, but effectively unavailable doesn't make a lot of
sense
>
> > to me. If there had been such a menu entry, its likely I would have used
it
>
> > rather than doing a freshmeat search for the newest, highly rated such
tool
> &
> > then went hunting in yumex for a suitable rpm. But, OTOH, this IS linux,
go
>
> > find your own tools, but linking a name to a function doesn't seem to be a

> > strong point in linux either.
> >
> > I've not looked at either enough to develop a love affair with either of
> them
> > just yet.
> >
> > >> Also, what user does the cron entry belong to?
> > >
> > >[root@gonzales ~]# ll /etc/cron.hourly/awstats
> > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188 2008-07-22 06:50 /etc/cron.hourly/awstats
> > >
> > So thats good.
> >
> > >[root@gonzales ~]# ll -Z /etc/cron.hourly/awstats
> > >-rwxr-xr-x root root system_ubject_r:bin_t:s0
> > > /etc/cron.hourly/awstats
> > >
> > >How did it originally set itself up as?
> >
> > ls -l /etc/awstats/:
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62137 2008-07-30 17:28 awstats.coyote.coyote.den.
conf
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62130 2008-07-21 17:17
> > awstats.localhost.localdomain.conf
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62130 2008-07-21 17:17 awstats.model.conf
> >
> > And I haven't touched what the rpm installed.
> >
> > And its output is at:
> > http://localhost/awstats/awstats.pl?config=coyote.coyote.den
> >
> > Since I'm running an oddball port # to the outside world, I was rather
> > surprised to see the googlebot was there every day this last month.
> >
> > >>> Are you still using your computer as root, and messing up file and
> > >>> directory ownerships as you go along?
> > >>
> > >> Here and there. If fedora would give me what I want to do, I'd use it
as
> > >> is, but it doesn't.
> > >
> > >Generally, I find it does. I only "su -" to reconfigure things. But
> > >once you stay as root while doing things, you paint yourself into a
> > >corner.
> >
> > It would appear to be the natural result. Some of this started when I
tried
>
> > to build OpenMovieEditor, and F8 apparently doesn't have enough GLX stuff
to
>
> > build it, 8 OpenGL functions seem to have been stripped from the library
by
> > RedHat. Reason? Damned if I know. See some of my posts in that thread.
> > This is however, a perfect example of the major reason I do run as root,
> its
> > a hell of a lot easier to fix stuff they've silently broken in what I view

> as
> > just as flagrant a market lockin as M$ is famous for doing.
> >
> > Why else would they strip 8 function calls out of the OpenGL stuff?
> >
> > >I also leave SELinux as default (enabled and targeted). I might
> > >temporarily disable it to see if it made a difference to something I was
> > >trying to beat into submission, but it goes back on again once I work
> > >out where any problems were.
> >
> > Its been enabled/targetted here non-stop for 4 or 5 months, and things
were
> > humming right along, till 2.6.27-rc1. I've rebuilt it without the IPsec
> > options for selinux now, but haven't rebooted, I've been busy saying magic

> > incantations and making shingles appear, all nailed down, on a new 16x26
> > garage roof. All that magic sure makes me sweat though, and working
through
> a
> > half hours light drizzle didn't help. Another 10 shingles or so and the
> > front half is done, but I need to do all the trim around the edges for the

> > back half before I can step over the peak with shingles in hand.
> >
> > >I had no SELinux issues while using either of these stats analysers.
> >
> > I think I, in my haste, pointed too many fingers. The one I pointed at
> > awstats was in error. This is a 2.6.27-rc1 (straight from kernel.org)
> > problem. The selinux guys are poking at it now I believe, but not sure,
its
>
> > been quite a few hours since I got up from this keyboard around 10:30ish
> this
> > morning.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers, Gene
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > After your lover has gone you will still have PEANUT BUTTER!
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:42:59 -0400
> > From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: awstats munged httpd rights in SElinux, how to fix?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <200807311742.59468.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > On Thursday 31 July 2008, Tim wrote:
> > >On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 14:58 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > >> I've got it running, and with no errors. Though I had to tweak
> > >> two settings in a /etc/awstats/awstats.localhost.conf configuration
> > >> file to suit my website (localhost, for this test - setting the
> > >> sitedomain directive to localhost, and for it to *NOT* skip results
> > >> from 127.0.0.1, by putting some other bogus IP in the skiphosts
> > >> directive).
> > >
> > >You *might* want to add the following tweak, *if* you don't want viewing
> > >the stats to be counted as part of the website stats. Find the
> > >SkipFiles directive (in the site awstats config file), and include the
> > >following: REGEX[^/awstats]
> > >
> > >Mine looks like the following, since I've not skipped anything else:
> > >
> > > SkipFiles="REGEX[^/awstats]"^M
> > >
> > Nice hint, thanks Tim.
> >
> > >I haven't removed any of the MS-DOS style line endings (the trailing ^M
> > >characters), as it seems to work fine as it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers, Gene
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > An evil mind is a great comfort.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:15:45 -0430
> > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@gmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: Welcome to the "fedora-list" mailing list (Digest mode)
> > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> > Message-ID: <1217540745.859.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:15 +0000, brents_13 wrote:
> > > My fedora 9 installer freezes at selinux targeted base policy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fedora-list-request@redhat.com <fedora-list-request@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: 7/31/2008 4:11:28 PM
> > > To: brents_13@hotmail.com <brents_13@hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: Welcome to the "fedora-list" mailing list (Digest mode)
> >
> > Three things:
> >
> > 1) As noted by Anne, you have now revealed your list password to
> > everyone. Change it immediately (if you still can ...)
> >
> > 2) You posted a reply when you should have posted a new message. The
> > question you are asking has nothing to do with the material you are
> > quoting.
> >
> > 3) When you *do* want to post a reply, please ensure that your text is
> > below the material you a referring to (or inserted in the middle as
> > appropriate). Do not top-post.
> >
> > Welcome to the list :-) I suggest you post your question again (not as a
> > reply to this message) and provide a little more information as it's not
> > easy to understand what you're seeing.
> >
> > poc
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:20:30 -0400
> > From: Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@courier-mta.com>
> > Subject: Re: Where do you get your servers?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <cone.1217542830.508918.19221.500@commodore.emai l-scan.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Kevin Martin writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Also try Penguin Computing. That's who we use...price competitive,
> > > understands Linux.
> >
> > My recollection, the last time I checked them out, is that they ship
> > workstations with installed frankenkernels, and various other binary blobs.

> > But if they're still doing that (it's not clear after a brief look at
their
> > website, but the fact that they sell only Nvidia video cards is not a good

> > sign), I would argue that they don't understand Linux, just yet.
> >
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> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:39:55 +0200
> > From: Bruno Costacurta <pubmb.bco@pt.lu>
> > Subject: Re: livcecd-iso-to-disk: USB key do not boot (BIOS setup is
> > fine)
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <48923F3B.2020507@pt.lu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > Bruno Costacurta wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I'm trying to build a USB bootable key with file
> > >> 'Fedora-9-i686-Live-KDE.iso'
> > >>
> > >> Command is :
> > >> sudo livecd-iso-to disk Fedora-9-i686-Live-KDE.iso /dev/sdd1
> > >>
> > >> which runs fine, boot loader included, and reports that USB key is
> > >> ready for use ... however the key is not ignored during boot (the
> > >> sequence continue correctly with following drive in the BIOS boot
> > >> order).
> > >>
> > >> I'm using an Asus eee pc (model 900) which is correctly configured to
> > >> boot via USB key as I tried it with a Debian bootable USB key which
> > >> boots fine.
> > >> I also tried another .iso, (precisely the EEdora dedicated to Asus
> > >> eee) but got same problem.
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> fdisk -l /dev/sdd
> > >>
> > >> Disk /dev/sdd: 1030 MB, 1030750208 bytes
> > >> 32 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1014 cylinders
> > >> Units = cylinders of 1984 * 512 = 1015808 bytes
> > >> Disk identifier: 0xb0bcd68e
> > >>
> > >> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > >> /dev/sdd1 * 1 1014 1005857 6 FAT16
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> which looks correct.
> > >> So opparently the problem come from livecd command whatever final
> > >> report OK.
> > >> Is there some knwon problem with livecd-iso-to-disk ? I'm using
> > >> Fedora-9.
> > >> Or can I build a USB key using another as a workaround ?
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks for attention and any clue.
> > >>
> > >> Bye,
> > >> Bruno
> > >>
> > >>
> > > You may have to run "syslinux -s /dev/sdd1". I forget where I found
> > > it, but with the version of syslinux included in F8, and probably F9,
> > > needs this before the USB key is recognized as a boot device. The
> > > latest version is susposed to handle this automatically, but it has
> > > not make it to F8 yet.
> > >
> > > Mikkel
> > 'syslinux -s /dev/sdd1' (which runs fine) unfortunately seems not to
> > resolve the problem : the USB key remains non-bootable... :-(
> > Bye,
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:48:50 -0700
> > From: fchan <fchan@molsci.org>
> > Subject: Re: Where do you get your servers?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <p06240805c4b7eda120cb@[209.172.112.227]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have Penguin Computing server and they normally install CentOS by
> > default but you can buy RedHat or SUSE as the OS. I didn't see any
> > "frankenkernel" per se, however, I didn't get CentOS on mine so I
> > don't know if they altered it there. I got RedHat ES on mine which
> > wasn't altered in any serious fashion other trying to market the HPC
> > cluster stuff.
> > On the line of Penguin Computing and Fedora 6 I got a weird system
> > hang on that server when I was testing it for another application.
> > However when I reinstalled RedHat ES from CD the problem went away.
> >
> > That is my $3 worth (2 cents adjusted for inflation),
> > Frank
> >
> > >Content-Type: multipart/signed;
> > > boundary="=_mimegpg-commodore.email-scan.com-19221-1217542830-0002";
> > > micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
> > >
> > >Kevin Martin writes:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Also try Penguin Computing. That's who we use...price competitive,
> > >>understands Linux.
> > >
> > >My recollection, the last time I checked them out, is that they ship
> > >workstations with installed frankenkernels, and various other binary
> > >blobs. But if they're still doing that (it's not clear after a brief
> > >look at their website, but the fact that they sell only Nvidia video
> > >cards is not a good sign), I would argue that they don't understand
> > >Linux, just yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >Attachment converted: Frank's MacBook Pro:Untitled 6360 ( / )
> (0059ADEC)
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:51:55 -0500
> > From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: How to swee youtube videos,
> > To: fedorq-list <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <1217544716.8787.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv but on youtube
> > I can see the video but not hear the sound.
> >
> > How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using.
> > --
> > ================================================== =====================
> > You will give someone a piece of your mind, which you can ill afford.
> > ================================================== =====================
> > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:00:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: How to swee youtube videos,
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <286054.73378.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > > In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv
> > > but on youtube
> > > I can see the video but not hear the sound.
> > >
> > > How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using.
> >
> > Try the following:
> >
> > # yum install libflashsupport
> >
> > Report back if that did the trick.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio
> > > --
> > > ================================================== =====================
> > > You will give someone a piece of your mind, which you can
> > > ill afford.
> > > ================================================== =====================
> > > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail:
> > > akonstam@sbcglobal.net
> > >
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> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:09:03 -0500
> > From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: association of applications with media
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <1217545743.8787.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 22:09 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Thursday 31 July 2008 21:54:12 Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > Let me try one more time. Someone must know the answer to this
seemingly
> > > > critical question. How to arrange it that a particular application is
> > > > used to process a particular media?
> > > >
> > > > totem for example will handle DVDs or it will handle CDs, etc, etc and
> > > > so forth.
> > > >
> > > > As a further example :
> > > > http://www.fedorafaq.org/
> > > > explains how totem can be used to play DVDs. Well if you install vlc
> > > > that application becomes the default for DVDs. How can that be changed?
> > > >
> > > Same way as you always did, as far as I can see. System Settings >
> Advanced >
> > > File Associations - put extension into search box and move applications
up
>
> > > and down the list so that the preferred one is at the top.
> > >
> > > Anne
> > i should have said I am using Gnome. The way we used to do it was using:
> > System->Preferences->Hardware->Removable Drives and Media.
> >
> > I can not find any System Settings->Advanced->File Associations
> > Is this a KDE thing?
> > --
> > ================================================== =====================
> > Beggar to well-dressed businessman: "Could you spare $20.95 for a fifth
> > of Chivas?"
> > ================================================== =====================
> > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:10:09 -0700
> > From: "Robert F. Chapman" <Robert.Chapman@maxim-ic.com>
> > Subject: Re: Where do you get your servers?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <1217545809.13608.78.camel@robert-chapman.testeng.maximhq.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Mazda Technologies
> > http://mazdatechnologies.com/
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:28 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > > Bazooka Joe wrote:
> > > > Is there a company like VA was that sells servers and promotes open
> source?
> > >
> > > http://www.siliconmechanics.com/
> > >
> > > --
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> > > fedora-list@redhat.com
> > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> > --
> > Robert F. Chapman (robert.chapman@maxim-ic.com)
> > Senior Manufacturing Test Engineer
> > Test Systems Development - WWTS
> > Maxim Integrated Products (Sunnyvale, Ca.)
> > Ph: 408-530-6607
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:58:58 +0100
> > From: whoosh <whoosh777@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > Subject: How to install emacs on Fedora9?
> > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> > Message-ID: <yam11170.2902.283699408@smtp.blueyonder.co.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> >
> > How do I install emacs to Fedora9?
> >
> > or is there another recommended editor?
> >
> > one other thing, I like the C formatting style:
> >
> >
> > if( x )
> > [ tab ]{
> > [ tab ]x = y ;
> > [ tab ]y = z ;
> > [ tab ]while( 1 )
> > [ tab ][ tab ]{
> > [ tab ][ tab ]printf( "?" ) ;
> > [ tab ][ tab ]}
> > [ tab ]}
> >
> > where { and } are in the same column, and each level of nesting
> >
> > is another [ tab ]
> >
> > the code between 2 { and } chars is in the same column as the { and }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > with Fedora 3 I couldnt find how to get that on emacs,
> >
> >
> > is there a way to get that formatting with emacs (which I havent yet
gotten
> > installed
> >
> > on Fedora 9) ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:36:01 -0430
> > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: How to swee youtube videos,
> > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> > Message-ID: <1217549161.859.36.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:00 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > > In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv
> > > > but on youtube
> > > > I can see the video but not hear the sound.
> > > >
> > > > How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using.
> > >
> > > Try the following:
> > >
> > > # yum install libflashsupport
> >
> > If your Firefox is 64-bit, you'll need both 32-bit and 64-bit versions:
> >
> > # yum install libflashsupport libflashsupport.i386
> >
> > poc
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:08:55 -0400
> > From: Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@courier-mta.com>
> > Subject: Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9?
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <cone.1217549335.417039.21346.500@commodore.emai l-scan.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > whoosh writes:
> >
> > >
> > > How do I install emacs to Fedora9?
> >
> > yum install emacs
> >
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:13:34 +0100
> > From: whoosh <whoosh777@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: Where to get 64-bit Fedora 9 DVD
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <yam11170.1710.283699408@smtp.blueyonder.co.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > On 31-Jul-08 19:42:53 Dave Feustel wrote:
> > >I installed Fedora 9 from the DVD that came with the book _Fedora 9 and
> > >Red Hat Enterprise Linux_. Fedora 9 works GREAT! But the version on the
> > >DVD that comes with the book is 32-bit and I prefer running with 64-bit.
> > >Where can I get a 64-bit Fedora 9 DVD?
> >
> > goto Google, search for "Fedora",
> >
> > at the first search result click "get Fedora"
> >
> > and then follow the link you want.
> >
> > >Thanks.
> >
> > >--
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:25:46 -0400
> > From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> > Subject: Re: help for .vcr files needed
> > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <4892580A.7090800@tmr.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Amitakhya Phukan wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I have got some lectures downloaded from a University. They are all rar
> > > files. Upon extracting them, I got .VCR files. How to play them ? When I

> > > contacted them, they said extract the files using unrar (which I did),
> > > and then use Java Participant Application to play them. They suggest
> > > AT&T Participant application for Windows platform.
> > >
> > I would try mplayer and/or ffmpeg for this, using the "bad" codecs from
> > livna repository. Seems to me I've seen this, but I don't remember the
> > details.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:01:44 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: PAE kernel and 4GB of memory
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48926078.1050002@tmr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Howard Wilkinson wrote:
> > I am looking for a definitive answer to the question of where the PAE
> > kernels become useful. I have seen various articles that mention needing
> > PAE kernels if you have more then 4GB of physical memory in a 32-bit
> > processor environment. I have also seen statements that say you need
> > them if you have 4GB or more of memory. Now which is right? Also, even
> > if you need a PAE kernel because the last few bytes are not addressable
> > when you have exactly 4GB is this useful or is the trade off of larger
> > page tables and pages going to eat any benefit of being able to address
> > these few bytes and if so when does the PAE kernel become useful?
> >
> The answer is "it depends." If you have 4GB or more of usable RAM PAE
> will let you address all of it, and may increase you process max size
> depending on the options in your non-PAE kernel.
>
> Look at /proc/mtrr to see what memory the OS thinks you have. If it
> doesn't agree with reality, use dmesg to look at the e820 registers,
> your BIOS may not set them correctly, the sizes should add up to
> physical memory, give or take memmapped hardware. If you have memort in
> mtrr ABOVE 4GB, PAE should help you.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:01:44 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: PAE kernel and 4GB of memory
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <48926078.1050002@tmr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Howard Wilkinson wrote:
> > I am looking for a definitive answer to the question of where the PAE
> > kernels become useful. I have seen various articles that mention needing
> > PAE kernels if you have more then 4GB of physical memory in a 32-bit
> > processor environment. I have also seen statements that say you need
> > them if you have 4GB or more of memory. Now which is right? Also, even
> > if you need a PAE kernel because the last few bytes are not addressable
> > when you have exactly 4GB is this useful or is the trade off of larger
> > page tables and pages going to eat any benefit of being able to address
> > these few bytes and if so when does the PAE kernel become useful?
> >
> The answer is "it depends." If you have 4GB or more of usable RAM PAE
> will let you address all of it, and may increase you process max size
> depending on the options in your non-PAE kernel.
>
> Look at /proc/mtrr to see what memory the OS thinks you have. If it
> doesn't agree with reality, use dmesg to look at the e820 registers,
> your BIOS may not set them correctly, the sizes should add up to
> physical memory, give or take memmapped hardware. If you have memort in
> mtrr ABOVE 4GB, PAE should help you.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:55:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@yahoo.com>
> Subject: What will be the codename for Fedora 10?
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <358420.99924.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Dear all,
>
> >From Fedora Weekly News,
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue136
>
> I saw that voting has ended for the codename of Fedora 10,
>
> <quote from FWN>
> Cast your vote for the Fedora 10 Codename!
>
> Josh Boyer reminded folks to vote[1]:
>
> "As long as you have signed the CLA and belong to one additional group in
the Fedora Account System, you can cast your vote.
>
> Voting will end and be tallied at 23:59:59 28 July 2008 UTC."
>
> [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-July/msg00011.
html
> </quote>
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/10
>
> Since voting has ended, where are the official results?
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:59:58 -0500
> From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: How to swee youtube videos,
> To: olivares14031@yahoo.com, For users of Fedora
> <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1217552398.2638.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:00 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > In firefox I can see and hear videos that are .mpg or.wmv
> > > but on youtube
> > > I can see the video but not hear the sound.
> > >
> > > How can this be fixed? This is f9 I am using.
> >
> > Try the following:
> >
> > # yum install libflashsupport
> >
> > Report back if that did the trick.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio
>
> Wonderful, that worked. Thanks.
> --
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> #42: BLISS is ignorance.
> ================================================== =====================
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:16:10 +0200
> From: "Andras Simon" <szajmi@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: How to install emacs on Fedora9?
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <9008cd5d0807311816q3016934bv93597c6ae3b2df28@mail .gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 8/1/08, whoosh <whoosh777@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > How do I install emacs to Fedora9?
> >
> > or is there another recommended editor?
>
> Absolutely not! Though some otherwise respectable folks swear by vi.
> Those who use [gk]edit and such should be sentenced to two years of
> Windows and Notepad.
>
> IMHO anyway :-)
>
> Andras
>
> ps. While in emacs, use c-h i to access the docs; you might find the
> chapter on customizing indentation in the description of CC Mode
> useful if you have indentation problems.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:47:10 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: What will be the codename for Fedora 10?
> To: olivares14031@yahoo.com, For users of Fedora
> <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48926416.3080705@fedoraproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/10
> >
> > Since voting has ended, where are the official results?
>
> You might have searched a bit.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-July/msg00014.html
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
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