Craig White wrote:
<snip>

I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your
suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked,
that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all.


not at all. what ever churns your butter.

if such an easy change is too much for you, then do not. after all it
is your system to fight with.

as for me, i did spend a couple minutes to make change, as i found thru
google, and it did work. granted, it may something different in your
system.

i do know/recall that i did have to add myself to 'lp' group, under
mandrake 9 and 10, when i could not print as a 'user', but could as
'root'.

also, i was joking about adding firefox to 'lp' group.

much luck.


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On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +0000, g wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> <snip>
> > I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your
> > suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked,
> > that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all.
>
> not at all. what ever churns your butter.
>
> if such an easy change is too much for you, then do not. after all it
> is your system to fight with.
>
> as for me, i did spend a couple minutes to make change, as i found thru
> google, and it did work. granted, it may something different in your
> system.
>
> i do know/recall that i did have to add myself to 'lp' group, under
> mandrake 9 and 10, when i could not print as a 'user', but could as
> 'root'.
----
I would rather remove the line once in a while than start mucking with
system groups but more to the point and the one you seem to be missing
is that the bandaid approach you suggest helps no one else. I'm far more
interested in a real solution to the problem because others are sure to
experience this issue.

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Craig White wrote:
<snip>


On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +0000, g wrote:

Craig White wrote:
<snip>

I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your
suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked,
that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all.

not at all. what ever churns your butter.

if such an easy change is too much for you, then do not. after all it
is your system to fight with.

as for me, i did spend a couple minutes to make change, as i found thru
google, and it did work. granted, it may something different in your
system.

i do know/recall that i did have to add myself to 'lp' group, under
mandrake 9 and 10, when i could not print as a 'user', but could as
'root'.

----



I would rather remove the line once in a while than start mucking with
system groups but more to the point and the one you seem to be missing
is that the bandaid approach you suggest helps no one else. I'm far more
interested in a real solution to the problem because others are sure to
experience this issue.


i am in full understanding of your reasoning and desire to find *where*
failure is coming from.

with no more response than you have of one other poster so far, would
this not tend to show that it would be something you 2 have in common
in configuring your system? granted, it is something that should not
happen. but it is.

therefore i would think that you and andy need to see what you have in
common in setups, permissions, and paths, etc.

also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check
cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line
is present.

then, if you have a large response of line present, you have narrowed
you search to other than just cups.

just a suggestion. use it or not.


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On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:52 +0000, g wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +0000, g wrote:
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your
> >>> suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked,
> >>> that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all.
> >> not at all. what ever churns your butter.
> >>
> >> if such an easy change is too much for you, then do not. after all it
> >> is your system to fight with.
> >>
> >> as for me, i did spend a couple minutes to make change, as i found thru
> >> google, and it did work. granted, it may something different in your
> >> system.
> >>
> >> i do know/recall that i did have to add myself to 'lp' group, under
> >> mandrake 9 and 10, when i could not print as a 'user', but could as
> >> 'root'.
> > ----
>
> > I would rather remove the line once in a while than start mucking with
> > system groups but more to the point and the one you seem to be missing
> > is that the bandaid approach you suggest helps no one else. I'm far more
> > interested in a real solution to the problem because others are sure to
> > experience this issue.
>
> i am in full understanding of your reasoning and desire to find *where*
> failure is coming from.
>
> with no more response than you have of one other poster so far, would
> this not tend to show that it would be something you 2 have in common
> in configuring your system? granted, it is something that should not
> happen. but it is.
>
> therefore i would think that you and andy need to see what you have in
> common in setups, permissions, and paths, etc.
>
> also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check
> cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line
> is present.
>
> then, if you have a large response of line present, you have narrowed
> you search to other than just cups.
>
> just a suggestion. use it or not.
----
Not a chance...

because I reverted to distribution version of cupsd.conf and have only 2
printers configured and the configuration is fairly basic.

I put in a bugzilla report.

I know that Tim Waugh usually monitors this list but guess he must be on
a summer vacation because he is the master of all things printers on
RH/Fedora.

We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that
Tim will sound off in a few days.

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Craig White wrote:
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We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that
Tim will sound off in a few days.


in all sincerity, i do wish you much luck.

this weekend i hope to get f9 respin burned and installed. i will be
setting up cups with 3 printers and do look forward to see what happens.

being that i will use mozilla firefox/thunderbird, i will try printing
with them. i know, you did not mention tbird.

are there any other programs that you have found this problem with?

my main usage will be with gnucash, several cad programs along with
gimp, maybe xsane.


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> also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check
> cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line
> is present.

I use CUPs (F8). No AuthInfoRequired line present.

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On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:19 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote:
> > also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check
> > cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line
> > is present.
>
> I use CUPs (F8). No AuthInfoRequired line present.
----
of course not because if it was there, you would be complaining.

people should ignore geleem's request - he's not having a problem anyway
and isn't helping with a solution.

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:19 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote:
>> > also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check
>> > cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line
>> > is present.
>>
>> I use CUPs (F8). No AuthInfoRequired line present.
> ----
> of course not because if it was there, you would be complaining.

You're probably right. However, I am intrigued as to how that line got
to where it is.

> people should ignore geleem's request - he's not having a problem anyway
> and isn't helping with a solution.

He's just stirring things up to start another 100-message thread, eh? ;-)

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Craig White wrote:
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of course not because if it was there, you would be complaining.


yet for some reason, he is on who is not having a problem.

why? i do not know. do you?


people should ignore geleem's request


what is wrong with a survey?

even if you do not care to hear of others good fortune, i do.

any way, others are welcome to reply to me. heck, i will even start
a new thread if that will appease you.


- he's not having a problem anyway and isn't helping with a solution.


not yet. as i do not have cups set up in f8. now that f9 respin is
out, and i get it installed, i will set up cups.

i may not have any problem. then again, i might. it really depends
on how i have it set up and configured.

how can i help with a solution if i do not have a problem to deal
with? that is other than a survey to find out.

if a 1000 reply with out problems and 4 or 5 reply with a problem,
then that would indicate to me that there is a problem, but it is
one that is unique.

in as much, if i am of the 4 or 5 with a problem, then i would like
to know even more where i messed up and correct it.

as i have stated in other post, i am an 'old head' and at same time
i am a 'newbie'. life would become dull if i were to ever think of
myself as an all knowing expert.

i do hope that when i stop learning it will be when i die.

one thing i have learned thru my years playing with computers, they
can mess up, so can i. many time when a computer messes up, it is
because i have either not understood what they were capable of doing,
or because i have programed them incorrectly, or there has been a
hardware failure.

later.


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Aldo Foot wrote:
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He's just stirring things up to start another 100-message thread, eh? ;-)


not even. just trying to learn and understand.


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