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"Parshwa Murdia" 06-27-2008 05:14 AM

Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
 
hi,

i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be viewed with all the details.

thanks
parshwa


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David Timms 06-27-2008 08:26 AM

Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems
 
Parshwa Murdia wrote:

hi,

i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
viewed with all the details.
Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
commands that you had made ?


If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this list.


DaveT.

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Bruno Wolff III 06-27-2008 03:05 PM

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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
David Timms <dtimms@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
>> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
>> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
>> viewed with all the details.
> Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
> commands that you had made ?
>
> If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
> keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
> list.

Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
to be on topic.

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Gilboa Davara 06-27-2008 05:13 PM

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On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 10:05 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
> David Timms <dtimms@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> > Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
> >> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
> >> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
> >> viewed with all the details.
> > Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
> > commands that you had made ?
> >
> > If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
> > keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
> > list.
>
> Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
> to be on topic.
>

I be to differ.
A. I doubt that this ML was designed to support illegal activities -
on-topic or not.
B. IANAL (and unfamiliar with the U.S. "aiding and abating" clews) but
I'd assume the helping someone commit illegal actions might land you in
very hot water. (And to some extents, land the ML operator in the same
hot water)

Never the less, if the OP's intents are legit (E.g. defensive in
nature), I believe if should have stated it in his post.

- Gilboa


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"max bianco" 06-27-2008 05:14 PM

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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 18:26:27 +1000,
> David Timms <dtimms@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i am having a system with the linux fedora core installed in it. could
>>> anyone tell about the free keyloggers used in the linux fedora core systems
>>> and the proper installtion of the same, so that all the keystrokes can be
>>> viewed with all the details.
>> Would it be useful to simply view .bash_history, so that you can see the
>> commands that you had made ?
>>
>> If not, it sounds like you are asking how to hack a system via a
>> keylogger - that wouldn't be appropriate discussion content for this
>> list.
>
> Why not? As long as he is asking for Fedora specific support it would seem
> to be on topic.

Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
remember the name.

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Kevin Martin 06-27-2008 05:21 PM

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<snip>

Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
remember the name.




Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
the internet?


Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
still, this might be what's going on.


Kevin

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Gilboa Davara 06-27-2008 07:04 PM

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On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:21 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> <snip>
> > Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
> > An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
> > around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
> > find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
> > time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
> > concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
> > prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
> > do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
> > remember the name.
> >
> >
>
> Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
> the internet?
>
> Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
> still, this might be what's going on.
>
> Kevin
>

... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?

- Gilboa

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g 06-27-2008 09:51 PM

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Gilboa Davara wrote:

... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?


if he only wanted to know history of firefox use.

parshwa,

for what ever reason you wish to use a keylogger, i do not know.

if it were something that i needed, i would log google-linux and search
for what is available.

oops. shame on me. i just told you a way to find something that you might
wish to use for illegal purposes. ;o)


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Andrew Kelly 06-30-2008 08:19 AM

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On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 22:04 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:21 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Its a bad idea to install something like that on your machine anyway.
> > > An attacker will probably know of all such common tools floating
> > > around, like a prepackaged rpm, and check for their existence, they
> > > find it, you save them the trouble of installing one, they spend their
> > > time copying the log you've so conveniently assembled for them. Your
> > > concerned about security and your going to trust someone else's
> > > prepackaged keylogger? Better just restrict what the machine can
> > > do....there is a tool to help with this but you know I just can't
> > > remember the name.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Maybe he's a parent trying to see what his kid(s) are really doing on
> > the internet?
> >
> > Other more serious trust/discipline issues involved here, I know, but
> > still, this might be what's going on.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
>
> ... Using a key logger?!?!?!?
> Wouldn't it be far easier to look at the Firefox/etc cache?
>
> - Gilboa

What would a browser cache tell you about shell commands?

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Frank Murphy 06-30-2008 08:27 AM

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On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:

Would not a simple: script -a some.log
do the trick re terminal without compromising pw(s)
Have it launched when a console is opened?

Frank



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