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Old 05-15-2008, 02:27 AM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

Hi,

A KDE 4 review from me.

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/

"KDE 4 shows exciting potential but still has a long way to go. Those
who remember the days of KDE or GNOME 2.0 won’t be disappointed at the
current state. Today’s new audience might have different expectations,
and it is unlikely the majority has the patience to deal with a major
rewrite like this one. Even the Linux kernel has moved towards
incremental progress over major rewrites in a development branch. The
KDE project has taken a big risk, hoping to jump-start innovation. I
hope they get it right. Along with the interesting acquisition of
Trolltech by Nokia, the future is exciting and uncertain… and that’s
just the way I like it."


Rahul

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Old 05-15-2008, 07:51 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

Hi

Since KDE 4 seems to be the current hot topic here, let me pitch in with
my own view on the state of affairs. Hope you enjoy it.


http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/

"KDE 4 shows exciting potential but still has a long way to go. Those
who remember the days of KDE or GNOME 2.0 won’t be disappointed at the
current state. Today’s new audience might have different expectations,
and it is unlikely the majority has the patience to deal with a major
rewrite like this one. Even the Linux kernel has moved towards
incremental progress over major rewrites in a development branch. The
KDE project has taken a big risk, hoping to jump-start innovation. I
hope they get it right. Along with the interesting acquisition of
Trolltech by Nokia, the future is exciting and uncertain… and that’s
just the way I like it."


Rahul

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Old 05-15-2008, 08:47 PM
Anne Wilson
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

On Thursday 15 May 2008 19:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> Since KDE 4 seems to be the current hot topic here, let me pitch in with
> my own view on the state of affairs. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/
>
> "KDE 4 shows exciting potential but still has a long way to go. Those
> who remember the days of KDE or GNOME 2.0 won’t be disappointed at the
> current state. Today’s new audience might have different expectations,
> and it is unlikely the majority has the patience to deal with a major
> rewrite like this one. Even the Linux kernel has moved towards
> incremental progress over major rewrites in a development branch. The
> KDE project has taken a big risk, hoping to jump-start innovation. I
> hope they get it right. Along with the interesting acquisition of
> Trolltech by Nokia, the future is exciting and uncertain… and that’s
> just the way I like it."
>
Excellent article, thanks.

Anne

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Old 05-15-2008, 11:42 PM
Timothy Murphy
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Since KDE 4 seems to be the current hot topic here, let me pitch in with
> my own view on the state of affairs. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/

I found this article very interesting and instructive,
as one would expect from Rahul.

Surprisingly, I find the changes in Fedora-9/KDE relatively minor
and don't see the dramatic changes Rahul alludes to.
As always, I find the repeated suggestion that Fedora is bleeding edge
slightly bizarre, like an old maid who believes her dress is outrageous.

I didn't see the cashew nut on the top right-hand corner (of what?)
that Rahul mentions.
("The hot spot on the top right corner that looks like a golden cashew nut
allows you to add widgets—called plasmoids–to your KDE desktop.")
The change in the main Fedora/KDE main menu struck me as minimal.
The organization of the menu is slightly more rational,
but I still find it difficult to predict if an application
will be listed under System, Settings or Utilities.
(Windows XP Control Center strikes me as much better in this regard.)

One thing I would like to see is for the test versions of Fedora-X
to be update-able to Fedora-X.
Well, they probably are, but one is always warned that they may not be.
I can't imagine it would be that difficult to organize,
and I would guess that it would vastly increase the number of people
running these versions.


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Old 05-15-2008, 11:51 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Rahul Sundaram wrote:


Since KDE 4 seems to be the current hot topic here, let me pitch in with
my own view on the state of affairs. Hope you enjoy it.

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/


I found this article very interesting and instructive,
as one would expect from Rahul.


Surprisingly, I find the changes in Fedora-9/KDE relatively minor
and don't see the dramatic changes Rahul alludes to.



As always, I find the repeated suggestion that Fedora is bleeding edge
slightly bizarre, like an old maid who believes her dress is outrageous.


Hmm. I don't think I mentioned dramatic or bleeding edge anywhere. Just
that it is a major release with many changes which I don't think anybody
would deny.



I didn't see the cashew nut on the top right-hand corner (of what?)
that Rahul mentions.


Desktop. The article also has a screenshot to show this.


One thing I would like to see is for the test versions of Fedora-X
to be update-able to Fedora-X.
Well, they probably are, but one is always warned that they may not be.
I can't imagine it would be that difficult to organize,
and I would guess that it would vastly increase the number of people
running these versions.


It is difficult to organize since sometimes you have to revert back
changes, move between incompatible configuration files etc but the last
preview release to the general release has been automatic and supported
in the last couple of releases.


Rahul

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Old 05-16-2008, 03:37 AM
Timothy Murphy
 
Default Fedora 9 and the road to KDE4

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

>>> Since KDE 4 seems to be the current hot topic here, let me pitch in with
>>> my own view on the state of affairs. Hope you enjoy it.
>>>
>>> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-and-the-road-to-kde4/
>>
>> I found this article very interesting and instructive,
>> as one would expect from Rahul.

>> I didn't see the cashew nut on the top right-hand corner (of what?)
>> that Rahul mentions.
>
> Desktop. The article also has a screenshot to show this.

I see it now, thanks.
I assumed you were referring to the picture of the main KDE menu,
just below your comment.

Unfortunately I always blow up my konsole desktops,
so I rarely see the true desktop underneath ...
But now I see the cashew nut, and will play with it if not eat it.


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