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Old 08-20-2012, 08:26 PM
Máirín Duffy
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 22:55 +0530, Arnav Kalra wrote:
> What is gobby?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobby

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Old 08-21-2012, 01:49 AM
Christopher Meng
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

Is there a tool or script help tester like auto test or auto submit result ?

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Old 08-21-2012, 02:21 AM
Ankur Sinha
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:49 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> Is there a tool or script help tester like auto test or auto submit
> result ?

Hello,

Not at the moment. We only make use of wiki pages with tables for test
result submission currently.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:49 AM
Christopher Meng
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

....OK.


If we can develop a tool which automatically does this,I think more tester will be available.

I used launchpad when I used ubuntu in 2008-2009,and when an error occured,a tool in ubuntu will send all dumps online waiting for fix.


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Old 08-21-2012, 03:01 AM
Jon
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

There is a new tool to help with dumps.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SimplifiedCrashReporting


For now there is nothing suitable for testing.

We have to live with what we got.

I'll plan on sending a few bulletins out on twitter, facebook, google+.

Increased exposure the best idea until we get improved testing facilities.


Kind Regards!
-Jon



On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Meng <cickumqt@gmail.com> wrote:
> ....OK.
>
>
> If we can develop a tool which automatically does this,I think more tester
> will be available.
>
> I used launchpad when I used ubuntu in 2008-2009,and when an error occured,a
> tool in ubuntu will send all dumps online waiting for fix.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
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>
> Yours sincerely,
> Christopher Meng
>
> Ambassador/Contributor of Fedora Project and many others.
> http://cicku.me
>
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:08 AM
Ankur Sinha
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:49 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> ....OK.
>
>
> If we can develop a tool which automatically does this,I think more
> tester will be available.
>
> I used launchpad when I used ubuntu in 2008-2009,and when an error
> occured,a tool in ubuntu will send all dumps online waiting for fix.

We already have abrt which does this. When an application crashes, abrt
will generate you a back trace and also file a bug at our bugzilla
instance. Fedora even runs a "retrace server" that you can use to
generate your back traces if you have limited bandwidth and don't want
to download all the required debuginfo packages.

It's helpful for bug filing, not quite for *all* testing though, since
we'd like to test software *before* it's pushed to the stable
repositories. Abrt cannot help with other testing like our F18
alpha/test candidates too.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:18 AM
Jon Stanley
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Meng <cickumqt@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used launchpad when I used ubuntu in 2008-2009,and when an error occured,a
> tool in ubuntu will send all dumps online waiting for fix.
>
> Just my opinion.

Fedora has something similar, called abrt - but that doesn't capture
what you need in a targeted test day scenario, where knowing what
*passed* is equally as important as knowing what failed (and for
failed test cases, you might need more information than is in an abrt
report)

Many moons ago, I was looking for a proper TCMS for Fedora QA, found
one called Testopia, which looked very promising. However, it getting
it packaged up, there were some unfortunate legal issues (pro tip:
never use ExtJS in *anything*). It then went sort of dead, and IIRC
someone was working on writing a replacement that never really
materialized

As for the kernel vFAD that started this thread, I personally thought
"ooohhh, kernel! Let me get involved there!" - only to find that it
had happened 2 days ago, and to this day the only word that I got of
it was a post from jwb on the Planet. We need to improve this - is
there for instance a test-announce list that someone could subscribe
to? That would be a start....
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:38 AM
Ankur Sinha
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 23:18 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
> Many moons ago, I was looking for a proper TCMS for Fedora QA, found
> one called Testopia, which looked very promising. However, it getting
> it packaged up, there were some unfortunate legal issues (pro tip:
> never use ExtJS in *anything*). It then went sort of dead, and IIRC
> someone was working on writing a replacement that never really
> materialized

Hi Jon,

Is this what you're talking about[1]?

The licensing seems to be the Mozilla Public License[2], which iirc is
open? I haven't been able to ascertain if it's dead though: probably
not[3]?


[1] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/testopia/
[2] http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/#source-code
[3] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Testopia


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Old 08-21-2012, 07:48 AM
Arnav Kalra
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

We can modify smolt for this purpose. What do you say?

On Aug 21, 2012 7:19 AM, "Christopher Meng" <cickumqt@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a tool or script help tester like auto test or auto submit result ?

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Old 08-21-2012, 02:29 PM
Jon Stanley
 
Default Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this what you're talking about[1]?

Yes.

> The licensing seems to be the Mozilla Public License[2], which iirc is
> open? I haven't been able to ascertain if it's dead though: probably
> not[3]?

And that's the problem - it uses a JavaScript library called ExtJS.
The licensing of ExtJS is incompatible with MPLv1.1. The ExtJS folks
have attempted to make it compatible, however RH legal does not accept
the exception.

See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450013#c21 and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450013#c29 for relevant
tidbits.
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