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Old 10-21-2010, 09:32 AM
Jonas Karlsson
 
Default "core" still present

Hi all,
I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
"fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:34 AM
Jonas Karlsson
 
Default "core" still present

as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
in the end of my last mail.

On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> best regards
> Jonas
>

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Old 10-21-2010, 02:53 PM
"Paul W. Frields"
 
Default "core" still present

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
> in the end of my last mail.
>
> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?

There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
"Fedora collection." :-)

We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

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Old 10-21-2010, 02:55 PM
Robyn Bergeron
 
Default "core" still present

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> *as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>> in the end of my last mail.
>>
>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> > *Hi all,
>> > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>> > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>> > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>> > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. *For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

"We" as in Marketing, or "we" as in the Fedora Project?
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:57 PM
Jan Wildeboer
 
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On 10/21/2010 04:55 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:

> "We" as in Marketing, or "we" as in the Fedora Project?

"We" as in all of them ;-)

Jan

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Old 10-21-2010, 04:16 PM
"Robert G. (Doc) Savage"
 
Default "core" still present

On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:53 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
> > in the end of my last mail.
> >
> > On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> > > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> > > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> > > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

How 'bout "cruft"?

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Old 10-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Ian Weller
 
Default "core" still present

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:53:12AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ

edit away!

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Old 10-21-2010, 11:21 PM
Beth Lynn Eicher
 
Default "core" still present

M, Ian Weller <ian@ianweller.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:53:12AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ
>
> edit away!

This should get this party started...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#What_happened_to_.27Fedora_Core.3F.27

Thanks,

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Old 10-22-2010, 04:55 PM
Jonas Karlsson
 
Default "core" still present

On 10/21/2010 04:53 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>> in the end of my last mail.
>>
>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>>> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>>> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>>> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>
Fedora collection.. that rings a bell somewhere in the past.. yes FAQ
might help here, but sounds more like a temporary solution, and cause
for confusion?

//Jonas


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Old 10-22-2010, 05:00 PM
Jonas Karlsson
 
Default "core" still present

On 10/22/2010 06:55 PM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 04:53 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>>> in the end of my last mail.
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>>>> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>>>> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>>>> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
>> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
>> "Fedora collection." :-)
>>
>> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>>
> Fedora collection.. that rings a bell somewhere in the past.. yes FAQ
> might help here, but sounds more like a temporary solution, and cause
> for confusion?
>
> //Jonas
>
>

I hit the send button to early yet again.. what I mean is that the fc
part in the file names sound more like a temporary solution and cause
for confusion for those who do look at package names.

//Jonas

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