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Jonas Karlsson 10-21-2010 09:32 AM

"core" still present
 
Hi all,
I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
"fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?

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Jonas Karlsson 10-21-2010 09:34 AM

"core" still present
 
as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
in the end of my last mail.

On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> best regards
> Jonas
>

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"Paul W. Frields" 10-21-2010 02:53 PM

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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
> in the end of my last mail.
>
> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?

There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
"Fedora collection." :-)

We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

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Robyn Bergeron 10-21-2010 02:55 PM

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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> *as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>> in the end of my last mail.
>>
>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> > *Hi all,
>> > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>> > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>> > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>> > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. *For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

"We" as in Marketing, or "we" as in the Fedora Project?
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Jan Wildeboer 10-21-2010 02:57 PM

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On 10/21/2010 04:55 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:

> "We" as in Marketing, or "we" as in the Fedora Project?

"We" as in all of them ;-)

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"Robert G. (Doc) Savage" 10-21-2010 04:16 PM

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On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:53 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
> > in the end of my last mail.
> >
> > On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
> > > time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
> > > One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
> > > "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

How 'bout "cruft"?

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Ian Weller 10-21-2010 08:04 PM

"core" still present
 
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:53:12AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ

edit away!

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Beth Lynn Eicher 10-21-2010 11:21 PM

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M, Ian Weller <ian@ianweller.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:53:12AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ
>
> edit away!

This should get this party started...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#What_happened_to_.27Fedora_Core.3F.27

Thanks,

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Jonas Karlsson 10-22-2010 04:55 PM

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On 10/21/2010 04:53 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>> in the end of my last mail.
>>
>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>>> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>>> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>>> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
> "Fedora collection." :-)
>
> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>
Fedora collection.. that rings a bell somewhere in the past.. yes FAQ
might help here, but sounds more like a temporary solution, and cause
for confusion?

//Jonas


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Jonas Karlsson 10-22-2010 05:00 PM

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On 10/22/2010 06:55 PM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 04:53 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:34:16AM +0200, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>> as someone will probobly notice I forgot to add "in upcoming releases
>>> in the end of my last mail.
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2010 11:32 AM, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I've been thinking about the "core" part in Fedora that was removed some
>>>> time ago (some 7-8 releases ago) but still hangs around here and there.
>>>> One place in particular is in package names. Fedora 14 for example have
>>>> "fc14" suffix, why not change this to "f14"?
>> There are technical reasons for this that concern the NEVR comparison
>> algorithm for packages. For that reason "fc" here was decided to mean
>> "Fedora collection." :-)
>>
>> We need a "General random FAQ" for these kinds of things, don't we?
>>
> Fedora collection.. that rings a bell somewhere in the past.. yes FAQ
> might help here, but sounds more like a temporary solution, and cause
> for confusion?
>
> //Jonas
>
>

I hit the send button to early yet again.. what I mean is that the fc
part in the file names sound more like a temporary solution and cause
for confusion for those who do look at package names.

//Jonas

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