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Old 03-12-2010, 01:59 PM
Robyn Bergeron
 
Default Ideas! Marketing FAD, here we come....

Ryan said today, or yesterday, or possibly, technically, the day
before yesterday, that he was hoping to not be stuck next to a
sleeping old lady on the plane. Well guess what! It may be me.

Anyway, moving along...

Since I can't sleep, I was going through emails and such on my
crackberry, and I came across poelcat's latest marketing schedule
brief that he sends out (So Awesomely, I might add). Which got me
thinking, which got me out of bed, and to this list of ideas. As
always, just suggestions, feel free to tell me if I'm insane (quite
possible after absolutely no sleep). We can probably do some of this
stuff at the FAD (in our copious spare time, of course). John, if
you're interested in going over / talking about #3 below - can you let
us know a convenient time for you?

1) Can poelcat possibly add links (not necessarily hyperlinked,
although that would be cool too) for each item on the schedule to the
appropriate SOP? For example:

Start End Name
Tue 02-Mar Tue 30-Mar Feature Profiles
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_profiles_SOP
Thu 04-Mar Mon 08-Mar Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing & Docs)
http://etc, etc (not sure if we have an SOP for this?)

2) Have a place in each SOP we create where we can reference the
item's place in the schedule. Also, describe any serious hard
dependencies, or what the previous items are that we depend on being
done to start that particular schedule item... or if it has no
dependencies at all. I think it would be great for newcomers who are
working on deliverables to be able to easily reference the broader
scope of this item's place in the schedule.

3) Marketing schedule SOP. How does this magic happen? Link to John's
descriptions / schedule pages / etc. Who to contact if schedule has
issues that need to be resolved (in the event John passes this task to
others).

4) Stickster: Your magic template action. For reference:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP#Create_the_release_slogan_page

a) Can you possibly give us a rundown at the FAD on how these magic
templates (the {{subst:Slogan}} part) work, how to create one, etc.?

b) Maybe we could magic-template, somehow, John's schedule to feed
into a {{subst:MarketingSchedule}} (I have no idea if that's correct),
that we could link into each SOP? Not sure how / if this would work.

4) Let's knock out any remaining SOPs. Feature profiles is one of them.

5) Completely unrelated to SOPs / scheduling stuff: Spins. I was
thinking that since we're doing feature profiles... maybe we could do
some Spins interviews? Either with the SIGs creating them, or perhaps
a different take would be with someone who uses them. Maybe this
would help to address the item in this mail
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-February/013639.html)
- "Little support by marketing: Was there ever done any marketing for
the spins?" as well as some of the things discussed in ever-so-epic
"Getting Fedora out of the if-then loop" thread on FAB-list.

(Incidentally, I offered up the opportunity in an email in that thread
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2010-February/008108.html)
to open up discussion on what the spin folks would like to see done in
terms of marketing - created a wiki page and referenced it for people
to populate it with their ideas. As you can see, there were no bites.
Wiki page here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_support_brainstorm But I
think we should maybe discuss what we can do there, since obviously
there is the perception that nothing is being done.)

Thoughts, comments, suggestions - if anyone thinks this stuff is
useful, I'll go ahead and add these somewhere in the FAD schedule.

After I sleep.

MARKETING FAD! WOO-WOO! Here we come.

-Robyn
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:26 AM
John Poelstra
 
Default Ideas! Marketing FAD, here we come....

Robyn Bergeron said the following on 03/12/2010 06:59 AM Pacific Time:
> 1) Can poelcat possibly add links (not necessarily hyperlinked,
> although that would be cool too) for each item on the schedule to the
> appropriate SOP? For example:
>
> Start End Name
> Tue 02-Mar Tue 30-Mar Feature Profiles
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_profiles_SOP
> Thu 04-Mar Mon 08-Mar Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing& Docs)
> http://etc, etc (not sure if we have an SOP for this?)

Great idea. Let me ask the TaskJuggler expert I know.

> 2) Have a place in each SOP we create where we can reference the
> item's place in the schedule. Also, describe any serious hard
> dependencies, or what the previous items are that we depend on being
> done to start that particular schedule item... or if it has no
> dependencies at all. I think it would be great for newcomers who are
> working on deliverables to be able to easily reference the broader
> scope of this item's place in the schedule.
>
> 3) Marketing schedule SOP. How does this magic happen? Link to John's
> descriptions / schedule pages / etc. Who to contact if schedule has
> issues that need to be resolved (in the event John passes this task to
> others).

The "magic" is here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/source/

For a quick glance at the tasks tagged as marketing:
$ grep -nB 4 "flags.*marketing.*" f-13.tjp

Remind me on the phone tomorrow at the FAD tomorrow and I'll explain how
it works.

John
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:11 AM
Robyn Bergeron
 
Default Ideas! Marketing FAD, here we come....

Sweet!

Ryan, Mel, and I just got in. Talk to you tomorrow!!

On 3/12/10, John Poelstra <poelstra@redhat.com> wrote:
> Robyn Bergeron said the following on 03/12/2010 06:59 AM Pacific Time:
>> 1) Can poelcat possibly add links (not necessarily hyperlinked,
>> although that would be cool too) for each item on the schedule to the
>> appropriate SOP? For example:
>>
>> Start End Name
>> Tue 02-Mar Tue 30-Mar Feature Profiles
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_profiles_SOP
>> Thu 04-Mar Mon 08-Mar Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing& Docs)
>> http://etc, etc (not sure if we have an SOP for this?)
>
> Great idea. Let me ask the TaskJuggler expert I know.
>
>> 2) Have a place in each SOP we create where we can reference the
>> item's place in the schedule. Also, describe any serious hard
>> dependencies, or what the previous items are that we depend on being
>> done to start that particular schedule item... or if it has no
>> dependencies at all. I think it would be great for newcomers who are
>> working on deliverables to be able to easily reference the broader
>> scope of this item's place in the schedule.
>>
>> 3) Marketing schedule SOP. How does this magic happen? Link to John's
>> descriptions / schedule pages / etc. Who to contact if schedule has
>> issues that need to be resolved (in the event John passes this task to
>> others).
>
> The "magic" is here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/source/
>
> For a quick glance at the tasks tagged as marketing:
> $ grep -nB 4 "flags.*marketing.*" f-13.tjp
>
> Remind me on the phone tomorrow at the FAD tomorrow and I'll explain how
> it works.
>
> John
>

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