Before we embark on Yet Another Wiki Page, I wanted to get some
consensus on whether we need an additional [[Fedora 12 Tour]] page.
Currently we have a (soon to be) screenshot-filled one-page release
notes page that is supposed to serve the function of introducing
novices to all the great features of release, and the basics of
Fedora in general and Fedora 12.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes

The new document includes pretty much everything I see in the old
[[Fedora 11 tour]] page, including links to the in-depth feature
profiles, overview, talking points, and so forth.

It seems to me an additional tour page is unnecessary. I just want to
voice my opinion, and if there's general agreement, we can knock that
off the release deliverables page in favor of the new standard of a
meaningful one-page release notes document.


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On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 15:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> It seems to me an additional tour page is unnecessary. I just want to
> voice my opinion, and if there's general agreement, we can knock that
> off the release deliverables page in favor of the new standard of a
> meaningful one-page release notes document.

FWIW I love it. Let's fill it with screenshots and just consider it the
tour.

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Paul W. Frields < hidden > wrote:
> Before we embark on Yet Another Wiki Page, I wanted to get some
> consensus on whether we need an additional [[Fedora 12 Tour]] page.
> Currently we have a (soon to be) screenshot-filled one-page release
> notes page that is supposed to serve the function of introducing
> novices to all the great features of release, and the basics of
> Fedora in general and Fedora 12.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes

Hello Paul,

I've a FEL-related screenshot for you.
http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=56&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Chitlesh

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On 11/04/2009 10:05 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 15:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:

It seems to me an additional tour page is unnecessary. I just want to
voice my opinion, and if there's general agreement, we can knock that
off the release deliverables page in favor of the new standard of a
meaningful one-page release notes document.


FWIW I love it. Let's fill it with screenshots and just consider it the
tour.


+1. Scrapped "tour page" from release deliverables list.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Fedora_12_release_deliverables

Taking a quick tour through the rest to check on status, will post to
list in a moment. I think we're almost there.


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Hello Paul,

I've a FEL-related screenshot for you.
http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=56&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Chitlesh



Thanks, Chitlesh!

I uploaded it to the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FEL-f12-screenshot.png and added it
in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes#Desktop_Users
- now if we could only get a picture of someone soldering or tinkering
with a robot to go next to it...


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On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 15:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Before we embark on Yet Another Wiki Page, I wanted to get some
> consensus on whether we need an additional [[Fedora 12 Tour]] page.
> Currently we have a (soon to be) screenshot-filled one-page release
> notes page that is supposed to serve the function of introducing
> novices to all the great features of release, and the basics of
> Fedora in general and Fedora 12.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes

So I've been trying to take a screenshot for this in the release notes:

"Fedora includes Empathy, an instant messenger that supports chat,
video, and audio."

I spent a couple hours trying to get video to work. No dice:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533542
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601039

If video chat in Empathy doesn't work maybe we shouldn't be advertising
it... I'd be happy to take a screenshot of ekiga instead...

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On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 15:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Before we embark on Yet Another Wiki Page, I wanted to get some
> consensus on whether we need an additional [[Fedora 12 Tour]] page.
> Currently we have a (soon to be) screenshot-filled one-page release
> notes page that is supposed to serve the function of introducing
> novices to all the great features of release, and the basics of
> Fedora in general and Fedora 12.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes

Some more ideas for the tour too, but I don't know if they are official
features or not and thus would make the tour too long?

- Technology preview: GNOME Shell

- Totem has some new really awesome features such as playlist sharing
and a BBC video viewing plugin (although on both counts I did not have
much success getting them to work )

- Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool
to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive
wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual
notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a
handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and
gimp of course rock with a tablet

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On 11/06/2009 10:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> - Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool
> to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive
> wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual
> notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a
> handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and
> gimp of course rock with a tablet
>
> ~m
I noticed a significant improvement of drawing in Gimp. The lag that was
present on Fedora 11 is gone.


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If you feel that we advertise anything that is not a "top quality" or a "cut-edge" technologically, it is better to replace it with something else, anything that you consider as a new "Desktop user" application can replace Empathy.

Also as a note, we need to create and freeze a central moto (that has to replace or be included in the first lines ).
I will include the nick 'Constantine' *in the page so we have an additional keyword for the engines.


Sakis

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga <luya@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

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On 11/06/2009 10:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

>

> - Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool

> to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive

> wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual

> notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a

> handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and

> gimp of course rock with a tablet

>

> ~m

I noticed a significant improvement of drawing in Gimp. The lag that was

present on Fedora 11 is gone.





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Athanasios E. Samaras wrote:
Also as a note, we need to create and freeze a central moto (that has to
replace or be included in the first lines ).
I will include the nick '/Constantine' / in the page so we have an
additional keyword for the engines.


The central motto was already decided a while back - it is "Unite."

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