Hi,

I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...

Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly.

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Concerns like this should go to the fedora-websites-list



Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

Hi,

I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...

Especially when Firefox 3 is gonna arrive very quickly.




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Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:
> I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
> widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...

Could it be that your browser sucks? ;-) Konqueror is showing me only native
form widgets on fedoraproject.org.

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Mine browser doesn't suck, silly.

Konqueror doesn't support styled forms. Run Firefox 2 and then Firefox
3.

FF2 - ugly non-gtk widgets on websites.
FF3 - beautiful gtk widgets on websites and those rectangular piece
of... rectangle.

Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:01 +0000, Kevin Kofler pisze:
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > I don't know who made CSS for fpo, but he should know, that native
> > widgets look better than rectangular ugly ones...
>
> Could it be that your browser sucks? ;-) Konqueror is showing me only native
> form widgets on fedoraproject.org.
>
> Kevin Kofler
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Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Konqueror doesn't support styled forms.

And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't
tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have "fixed" it.

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But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
(rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).

Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +0000, Kevin Kofler pisze:
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Konqueror doesn't support styled forms.
>
> And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't
> tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have "fixed" it.
>
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Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the
default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms. It's
nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do with.
Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either use a
browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it.



On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form
widgets are on* fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one
to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way enough
to not worry about personally.



Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
(rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).

Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +0000, Kevin Kofler pisze:


Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:


Konqueror doesn't support styled forms.


And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't
tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have "fixed" it.

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Exactly that widgets should not be styled.

Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
> Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the
> default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms.
> It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do
> with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either
> use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it.
>
> On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form
> widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one
> to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way
> enough to not worry about personally.
>
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
> > appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
> > (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).
> >
> > Dnia 24-12-2007, pon o godzinie 23:53 +0000, Kevin Kofler pisze:
> >
> > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <jakub.rusinek <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > Konqueror doesn't support styled forms.
> > > >
> > > And I'd say that's a good thing, for the exact reason you describe. I haven't
> > > tried the KDE 4 version yet though, they might have "fixed" it.
> > >
> > > Kevin Kofler
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I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it.
It's a web accessability thing. Ability to style it and see a nice
looking form, or if your browser doesn't support it, then it still gets
form controls with the universal default which still allows it to be
useable. If your complaint is that the styled version is "90ish" with a
square appearance, then I will reconsider my arguements.



Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

Exactly that widgets should not be styled.

Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:


Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the
default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms.
It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do
with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either
use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it.

On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form
widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one
to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way
enough to not worry about personally.

Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:


But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
(rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).




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You don't understand. Rectangular widgets, non-native are ugly and
they're making websites looking more out-of-the-box, what's wrong.

Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:23 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
> I see nothing wrong with styling it for those who have support for it.
> It's a web accessability thing. Ability to style it and see a nice
> looking form, or if your browser doesn't support it, then it still
> gets form controls with the universal default which still allows it to
> be useable. If your complaint is that the styled version is "90ish"
> with a square appearance, then I will reconsider my arguements.
>
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > Exactly that widgets should not be styled.
> >
> > Dnia 25-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:06 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze:
> >
> > > Well, you can do the appealing to the people that be that dictate the
> > > default appearance of any sort of basic form appearance for forms.
> > > It's nothing that the art or the website team have anything to do
> > > with. Until you can appeal to the people that set this, you can either
> > > use a browser that supports styled forms, or put up with it.
> > >
> > > On a personal note, I am not really all that bothered by whatever form
> > > widgets are on fedoraproject.org root url. Only one I see is the one
> > > to switch the language, which is small enough and out of the way
> > > enough to not worry about personally.
> > >
> > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > >
> > > > But it doesn't change the fact. Form styling (not the alignment, the
> > > > appearance css part) MUST be removed or changed to non-rectangular
> > > > (rectangles were nice in win9x epoch).
> > > >
> > > >
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