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Old 07-03-2008, 03:14 PM
"Jonathan Roberts"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

Right,

We have a Trac instance now, thanks to the kind infrastructure people

https://fedorahosted.org/fedoratv/

Any FAS account holders can login, file a ticket with information
about a video/audio they want to submit for the feed, and we can
respond openly and hold any discussions about whether to include the
file or not.

Before announcing this to the project outside of this list, I'd like
to ask people to review the text I've put up and make any changes they
think are needed.

We still need to find a better way to update the feed, but that can
wait until everything else is running smoothly.

Best,

Jon

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Old 07-03-2008, 08:45 PM
Kushal Das
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Thursday 03 July 2008 08:44:34 pm Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> Any FAS account holders can login, file a ticket with information
> about a video/audio they want to submit for the feed, and we can
> respond openly and hold any discussions about whether to include the
> file or not.
Looks good enough for starting. What we require now, is a long list of
reviewers and ideas. We should also make sure that this news goes to everyone
and everywhere. People should know about it.
So, start blogging and mailing on this. We need more
*Videos/Screencasts/Podcasts*

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Old 07-07-2008, 05:10 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Jonathan Roberts
<jonrob@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Right,
>
> We have a Trac instance now, thanks to the kind infrastructure people
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedoratv/

What is the rss feed url? Do we have that listed on a page somewhere
outside of Miro itself? For people using other "podcasting" clients
we should make it easy to find. Possibly on the start page.

I've gotten permission from the gpodder upstream to patch the default
list of rss feeds that gpodder will pre-populate for first time users
of gpodder on a system. I want to add our fedora rss feed to it and
see how it goes.

-jef

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Old 07-07-2008, 06:20 PM
"Jonathan Roberts"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

> What is the rss feed url? Do we have that listed on a page somewhere
> outside of Miro itself? For people using other "podcasting" clients
> we should make it easy to find. Possibly on the start page.
>

OK, I've added that to the Fedora TV trac page.

> I've gotten permission from the gpodder upstream to patch the default
> list of rss feeds that gpodder will pre-populate for first time users
> of gpodder on a system. I want to add our fedora rss feed to it and
> see how it goes.

Would it also be worth while looking into adding it to Banshee out of
the box on Fedora systems? Version 1.0 can play video files too, and
is my preferred client for video podcasts...

I'm going to post this to my blog in the next few hours unless anyone
has any objections?

Best,

Jon

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Old 07-07-2008, 07:14 PM
"Jonathan Roberts"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

I've attached the announcement I've drafted for my blog below.
Opinions are welcome I'd also like to push this to f-announce-list
too, if possible. In a short while too, I was going to create a video
to stick in the channel saying welcome - though it won't be any thing
exciting, just my ugly mug recorded via my webcam, any brighter ideas
are welcome!

Best,

Jon

---------------------

What is it?

A way for our community to easily share video and audio related to
Fedora with each other - the mechanism we've chosen to do this is an
RSS feed that also exists as a channel in Miro.

How do I watch?

You can install Miro and subscribe to the Fedora TV channel. You can
also add the RSS feed to any feed reader or suitable podcatching
client. I'm personally using Banshee for my podcast needs these days
as it has great video support and if you're a Gnome user is really
nice to use

The feed URL is http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tv.xml

Can I submit my own videos?

Yes! We want this to be a community channel where any Fedora community
members can submit their content. So if you've created a screen cast
tutorial, an interview, a podcast, a promo video or anything else
Fedora related we want you to submit it to us. The only conditions for
it's inclusion in the feed is that it's:

1. on topic
2. in an open format such as OGG Theora/Vorbis
3. is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike license

To let us know about your video head over to our Trac instance where
you can login with your FAS account details and file a new ticket for
each video you'd like to include. This way we can review your
submission to make sure the above conditions are all met. If we decide
that a video isn't suitable, we'll let you know in the ticket so all
conversations of this manner are open and everyone can have their
voices heard

At the moment you need to find somewhere to keep your video file as we
don't have dedicated hosting. For the time being, you might want to
try using your Fedora People space.

What still needs doing?

A better way for us to update the feed. At the minute I maintain the
feed, and as you can imagine this is not entirely ideal. We'd like to
fix this and find an automatic way for this to happen, but we can
tackle that in the future.

A better place for feed videos to be stored.

I'd also really like to have a place to tie all of our marketing
activities together, and I hope we'll have this in the not too distant
future.

What do I plan to do for the channel?

My usual series of developer interviews. Yeah, I'm original, I know...
I challenge everyone else in the community to come up with something
better!

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Old 07-07-2008, 07:42 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Roberts
<jonrob@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Would it also be worth while looking into adding it to Banshee out of
> the box on Fedora systems? Version 1.0 can play video files too, and
> is my preferred client for video podcasts...

I think it would be worthwhile to add a single Fedora cast feed as a
pre-defined default in any application that understands podcasts. I
maintain the gpodder package, so I have the ability to just do it, so
I'm doing it with upstream's consent. If we end up getting to the
point where we need to have multiple feeds, then we might want to show
constraint and not over-populate a default feed list in any
application and let people grab additional feeds as the desire.

The important thing being that the pre-populating be done in such a
way that a user can choose to delete the feed and it doesn't come
back, unless the user needs to wipe that applications configs
completely and get a re-generated set of default configs. We don't
want to force them to keep a feed in place, but we do want them to see
the feed... like the default bookmarks we put in firefox.

-jef

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Old 07-07-2008, 08:42 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it would be worthwhile to add a single Fedora cast feed as a
> pre-defined default in any application that understands podcasts. I
> maintain the gpodder package, so I have the ability to just do it, so
> I'm doing it with upstream's consent. If we end up getting to the
> point where we need to have multiple feeds, then we might want to show
> constraint and not over-populate a default feed list in any
> application and let people grab additional feeds as the desire.

Just a little FYI. Gpodder has the ability to set a URL for a channel
directory, for its "import from the web" channel selection feature.
We have the option to create a Fedora specific channel directory,
replacing the default one. Would that be worthwhile? And if so would
it be legal? Could we legally create such a directory file hosted
inside the fedora project of "interesting" vorbis/theora feeds and
offer it as a directory of channels to choose from inside gpodder?
Does banshee offer a similar directory of channels option?

This is the current gpodder directory url for reference:
http://gpodder.berlios.de/directory.opml

-jef

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Old 07-07-2008, 10:03 PM
Kushal Das
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Tuesday 08 July 2008 12:44:06 am Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> The feed URL is http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tv.xml
In the above stated rss feed what is the different between <pubDate> and
<lastBuildDate> ?

like in that file:
<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
<lastBuildDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:23:00 GMT</lastBuildDate>


I am writing a small python script to add videos to that xml file.

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Old 07-07-2008, 10:08 PM
"Jonathan Roberts"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

2008/7/7 Kushal Das <kushaldas@gmail.com>:
> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 12:44:06 am Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> The feed URL is http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tv.xml
> In the above stated rss feed what is the different between <pubDate> and
> <lastBuildDate> ?
>
> like in that file:
> <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:23:00 GMT</lastBuildDate>
>
>
> I am writing a small python script to add videos to that xml file.

There shouldn't be a difference, just me being clumsy! Not sure that
they're both necessary, but it was put together quickly and I thought
it wa better to be careful.

Best,

Jon
>
> Kushal
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Old 07-08-2008, 02:17 AM
"Clint Savage"
 
Default Fedora TV is ready to go!

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Roberts
<jonrob@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> I've attached the announcement I've drafted for my blog below.
> Opinions are welcome I'd also like to push this to f-announce-list
> too, if possible. In a short while too, I was going to create a video
> to stick in the channel saying welcome - though it won't be any thing
> exciting, just my ugly mug recorded via my webcam, any brighter ideas
> are welcome!
>
> Best,
>
> Jon
>
> ---------------------
>
> What is it?
>
> A way for our community to easily share video and audio related to
> Fedora with each other - the mechanism we've chosen to do this is an
> RSS feed that also exists as a channel in Miro.
>
> How do I watch?
>
> You can install Miro and subscribe to the Fedora TV channel. You can
> also add the RSS feed to any feed reader or suitable podcatching
> client. I'm personally using Banshee for my podcast needs these days
> as it has great video support and if you're a Gnome user is really
> nice to use
>
> The feed URL is http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tv.xml
>
> Can I submit my own videos?
>
> Yes! We want this to be a community channel where any Fedora community
> members can submit their content. So if you've created a screen cast
> tutorial, an interview, a podcast, a promo video or anything else
> Fedora related we want you to submit it to us. The only conditions for
> it's inclusion in the feed is that it's:
>
> 1. on topic
> 2. in an open format such as OGG Theora/Vorbis
> 3. is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike license

Is 'signed the CLA' assumed?
>
> To let us know about your video head over to our Trac instance where
> you can login with your FAS account details and file a new ticket for
> each video you'd like to include. This way we can review your
> submission to make sure the above conditions are all met. If we decide
> that a video isn't suitable, we'll let you know in the ticket so all
> conversations of this manner are open and everyone can have their
> voices heard
>
> At the moment you need to find somewhere to keep your video file as we
> don't have dedicated hosting. For the time being, you might want to
> try using your Fedora People space.
>
> What still needs doing?
>
> A better way for us to update the feed. At the minute I maintain the
> feed, and as you can imagine this is not entirely ideal. We'd like to
> fix this and find an automatic way for this to happen, but we can
> tackle that in the future.
>
> A better place for feed videos to be stored.
>
> I'd also really like to have a place to tie all of our marketing
> activities together, and I hope we'll have this in the not too distant
> future.
>
> What do I plan to do for the channel?
>
> My usual series of developer interviews. Yeah, I'm original, I know...
> I challenge everyone else in the community to come up with something
> better!

See my comment above, otherwise it sounds great. JonRob, you rock
man. I'll be working on some new videos in the near future. Watch
for gnome-do, ssh keys and more.

Cheers,

Clint

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