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Old 08-29-2011, 01:57 AM
"Jesse N. Richardson"
Default infrastructure Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32


*** I know I missed this meeting. But just to let you guys know
ahead of time; I'm going to explain why I won't be that active
in the next few months. The following things will take up most of my

I'm getting married soon (yay!)
I'm going back to college
I'm working on the days that I'm not in college.

I hope you guys can understand. I'm still going to try my best to
help out as much as I can.

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Today's Topics:

1. Plan for today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2011-08-25 at
19UTC) (Kevin Fenzi)
2. Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting
(2011-08-25 at 19UTC) (Kevin Fenzi)


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28:19 -0600
From: Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com>
Subject: Plan for today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2011-08-25 at
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The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting today:
2011-08-25 at 1900 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network.

Suggested topics (suggested by whom):

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.

* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik)

2011-08-23: Fedora 16 alpha
2011-09-01 mail fi-apprentice folks.
2011-09-13 - 27: Beta change freeze
2011-09-09 Remove inactive fi-apprentice people.
2011-09-27: Fedora 16 Beta

* Meeting tagged tickets:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&g roup=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority

Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a
note replying to this thread.

More info here:



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:38:29 -0600
From: Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com>
Subject: Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting
(2011-08-25 at 19UTC)
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2011-08-25)

Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* Robot Roll Call (nirik, 19:00:01)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:01:23)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:03:18)

* Meeting tagged tickets: (nirik, 19:19:05)
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&g roup=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority
(nirik, 19:19:05)

* Open Floor (nirik, 19:20:50)
* ask fedora RFR: I am going to see if I can help mether get an
initial cut added to puppet for staging. It doesn't look too hard to
puppetize (nirik, 19:26:01)
* paste RFR: need to ask herlo status. He was fixing bugs in the epel
package (nirik, 19:26:21)

Meeting ended at 19:37:29 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
* (none)

People Present (lines said)
* nirik (71)
* skvidal (41)
* abadger1999 (17)
* rfelsburg (12)
* lmacken (8)
* zodbot (4)
* jsmith (1)
* CodeBlock (1)
* tibbs (1)
* smooge (0)
* ricky (0)
* codeblock (0)
19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2011-08-25)
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 25 19:00:01 2011 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 codeblock nirik ricky skvidal smooge
19:00:14 * skvidal is here
19:00:21 * rfelsburg is here
19:00:23 * CodeBlock here
19:00:34 <abadger1999> boa tardes
19:00:48 <skvidal> what did you just call us?
19:00:56 <skvidal>
19:00:57 <rfelsburg> you heard him
19:01:00 <abadger1999> skvidal: Do you really want to know? ;-)
19:01:06 <skvidal> abadger1999: I think I do know
19:01:09 <jsmith> skvidal: He called you a fine fella...
19:01:09 <skvidal> that's the problem!
19:01:11 <abadger1999> hehe
19:01:17 <nirik> ha
19:01:22 * skvidal storms around in a huff
19:01:23 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
19:01:27 <skvidal> *huff*
19:01:40 <abadger1999> skvidal: too much paint is bad for the brain
19:01:45 <nirik> Any new folks want to say hi or ask questions? any apprentice tasks/tickets anyone wants to discuss?
19:01:54 <skvidal> abadger1999: you mean wall candy?
19:02:42 * rfelsburg says hi.
19:02:48 <nirik> welcome rfelsburg.
19:02:56 <rfelsburg> ty.
19:03:11 <nirik> ok, moving along...
19:03:18 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:03:27 <nirik> so, we are out of freeze.
19:04:01 <nirik> any upcoming plans folks would like to talk about/
19:04:04 <nirik> I have a few...
19:04:22 <nirik> we finally are getting all out new machines on line in phx2.
19:04:30 * abadger1999 is finally making tie to deploy raffle
19:04:41 <nirik> abadger1999: cool.
19:05:01 <nirik> once we have new machines installed and added to monitoring, we can:
19:05:39 <nirik> look at whats on xen03/05/09/15 and migrate those things to (hopefully) new rhel6 instances on the new virthosts.
19:05:52 <nirik> those 4 machines are out of warentee at the end of next month.
19:06:22 <nirik> also, will look at migrating more rel-eng stuff to rhel6
19:06:49 <nirik> we still need community to work to move to rhel6 app servers.
19:06:49 * skvidal looks at virthost-lists.out and wonders what broke
19:07:11 * skvidal runs vmdiff
19:07:13 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, i'm working on the whole tg2/moksha/fedoracommunity on RHEL6 thing...
19:07:39 <nirik> lmacken: yeah, thanks for that.
19:08:04 * lmacken just deployed a new fedoracommunity bugfix release... hopefully no more log spamming too
19:08:10 <nirik> hurray
19:08:13 <skvidal> lmacken: cool
19:08:47 <nirik> I have some random projects on my todo list anyone else is welcome to take and run with:
19:09:11 <nirik> * setup arpwatch on dhcp01/noc01, so we can notice if something new plugs into our networks in phx2.
19:09:26 <nirik> * add ipv6 to noc02 and get ipv6 monitoring working.
19:09:45 <nirik> * more bcfg2 work in qa
19:10:09 <nirik> * get clamav filter working with mailman
19:10:12 <skvidal> * setup and config sec on log02 for specific log event alert
19:10:23 <lmacken> arpwatch sounds interesting. would it trigger a nagios alert or something?
19:10:30 <nirik> lmacken: it does email by default.
19:10:41 * lmacken runs arpon --static on all of his machines to force static arp tables (to mitigate mitm)
19:10:44 * rfelsburg will brb
19:10:52 * skvidal does not need a page about a new mac
19:10:56 <nirik> mails you the mac address and a thing looking it up to see what vendor, etc.
19:11:04 <nirik> it should be rare.
19:11:36 <tibbs> I use arpwatch here and find it useful.
19:11:49 <skvidal> * plan combining hosted01's mailing lists with collab1's lists
19:11:51 * nirik uses it at home.
19:12:01 <skvidal> tibbs: it is useful - not sure we need to stow stuff into nagios for it, though
19:12:09 <skvidal> an email or even just a log notice about it sshould be sufficient
19:12:32 <nirik> On the hosted/collab front, I am still waiting to hear back from serverbeach... I wonder if they got confused about our status as donated or something.
19:12:39 * nirik will followup on that.
19:13:09 <skvidal> nirik: wouldn't shock me
19:13:48 <nirik> so the xen move stuff will entail some outage... since db02 is in there... I'll try and come up with a schedule/plan.
19:14:10 <nirik> anyhow, any other upcoming plans? any releases for pkgdb/other apps?
19:14:30 <lmacken> i'll probably do a bodhi bugfix release tomorrow
19:14:40 <abadger1999> We might hotfix some pkgdb stuff before next freeze but we're not going to fit a new release in.
19:15:06 <abadger1999> I'm waiting with elections until we get tg2 stack fixed for rhel6 and rhel6 app servers.
19:15:09 <nirik> ok.
19:15:30 <abadger1999> Since it'll be a tg2 port.
19:15:31 <nirik> lmacken: will that fix the override needs commit on rawhide thing?
19:15:54 <lmacken> nirik: yes, it will
19:15:59 <nirik> excellent.
19:16:12 <lmacken> that patch isn't written yet, but I'll make sure to get it done before the release. should be simple.
19:16:32 <nirik> so it should just need commit on that branch or provenpackager?
19:16:59 * rfelsburg back
19:17:11 <lmacken> nirik: yep. that logic is already written for the updates portion of bodhi, so I just need to copy/paste/tweak
19:17:23 <nirik> cool.
19:17:58 <skvidal> the virthost-lists output is fixed
19:18:08 <skvidal> and the bug causing it ot be mostly empty is corrected
19:18:15 <skvidal> (sorry for the interruption)
19:18:16 <nirik> oh, I am also going to make the log02 changes I posted to the list a while back... unless folks have objections? basically allow apprentice and make the logs readable to apprentice...
19:18:24 <skvidal> worksforme
19:19:05 <nirik> #topic Meeting tagged tickets:
19:19:05 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&g roup=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority
19:19:21 <nirik> any specific tickets folks want to talk about?
19:19:45 * nirik is going to look at cleaning out the meeting tagged tickets.
19:19:56 <nirik> just put it on those ones we really do want to talk about at meetings.
19:20:45 * nirik listens to the crickets.
19:20:50 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:20:57 <nirik> Anyone have items for open floor?
19:22:04 <skvidal> anyone want to work on the func2nagios stuff?
19:22:27 <skvidal> it's not hard to get started and it would mean never having to ask for the basic host entry for just seeing if the box is running, etc
19:22:59 <rfelsburg> Since this has been circulating for the last week or so give or take, are we doing anything to mitigate the range header problem in apache?
19:23:23 <skvidal> rfelsburg: I suspect wait for the patch
19:23:32 <nirik> skvidal: might file a ticket on it and we can point people to it?
19:23:34 <rfelsburg> skvidal: is that puppet? the func2nagios stuff
19:23:43 <skvidal> rfelsburg: is it puppet?
19:23:50 <nirik> rfelsburg: yes, waiting for the fix. None of the workarounds are that good.
19:24:00 <rfelsburg> nirik: thanks.
19:24:11 <skvidal> rfelsburg: no - func2nagios - take list of hosts from func - do some magic to them, ask them for listening ports, dump out host entries and some basic service entries for them
19:24:11 <rfelsburg> skvidal: is the func2nagios stuff puppet related?
19:24:27 <rfelsburg> skvidal: gotcha, sorry no experience with that or i would
19:24:39 <skvidal> rfelsburg: it is mainly b/c maintianing simple, common, repeptive host entries in puppet is irritating
19:25:21 <rfelsburg> skvidal: makes sense.
19:25:25 <nirik> oh, also:
19:26:01 <nirik> #info ask fedora RFR: I am going to see if I can help mether get an initial cut added to puppet for staging. It doesn't look too hard to puppetize
19:26:21 <nirik> #info paste RFR: need to ask herlo status. He was fixing bugs in the epel package
19:27:00 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, we can call it a short meeting and get back to infraing.
19:27:04 <abadger1999> There's been some changes to hosted that people should be aware of
19:27:13 <nirik> oh yes, might be good to note those...
19:27:47 <abadger1999> I changed the hosted restricted ssh command script in the past week for a few issues
19:27:55 <abadger1999> Added ability to upload to releases via rsync
19:28:00 <abadger1999> Removed monotone support
19:28:39 <skvidal> yay
19:28:49 <skvidal> can we remove svn, hg and bzr support too?
19:28:53 * skvidal watches abadger1999 twitch
19:28:53 <nirik> abadger1999: did you see the followup about timestamps with rsync?
19:28:54 <abadger1999> And did my best to lock down bzr and hg -- before they were able to write to the user's ome dir (and thus overwrite authorized_keys and thus get them an ssh shell instead of being locked into only running SCM commands)
19:29:14 <abadger1999> nirik: I did... but I don't know what we'd need to do there.
19:29:17 <skvidal> abadger1999: good job
19:29:24 <abadger1999> nirik: I'm only limiting the directory paths in the script.
19:29:27 <nirik> yeah, I'm not sure if thats possible if you aren't root.
19:29:37 <nirik> but perhaps it should be. Will look.
19:30:06 <abadger1999> nirik: Thanks. I can help with coding.. but I don't know what rsync options (if they exist) we'd need to inject.
19:31:19 <nirik> we don't really have any way to announce things to hosted people do we?
19:31:56 <skvidal> nirik: I guess we can email every account on the machine
19:31:59 <abadger1999> anyhow.. If there's some sort of authenticated, scm-specific issue in the next week, let me know as it might be the updated script.
19:32:05 <nirik> I thought once about: make a fedorahosted-announce list, invite all project owners to it. Would that be viable?
19:33:06 <nirik> it would be nice to have a place to announce stuff, but allow them to opt into that spamming.
19:33:29 <skvidal> nirik: how much just make a list of all of them on-the-fly
19:33:38 <skvidal> and only enable the list when we need it
19:34:12 <nirik> I suppose. I bet we get people telling us they don't care... but that could work.
19:34:20 <nirik> ie, please remove me from your list.
19:34:53 <nirik> we can work out the details out of band...
19:35:13 <nirik> in addition to this rsync addition, I'd like to be able to announce the new hosted machine, migration, etc.
19:35:38 <skvidal> nirik: if they want to be removed from the list then they can stop using hosted
19:35:40 <skvidal>
19:35:50 <nirik> indeed.
19:35:52 <skvidal> nirik: but as long as the list defaults to 'off' when not in use
19:35:57 <skvidal> it's not like it will be a spam sync
19:36:01 <nirik> true.
19:36:02 <skvidal> I dunno
19:36:04 <skvidal> that might be silly
19:36:11 * skvidal doesn't really have a dog in the fight much
19:36:38 <nirik> ok, any other items? or shall we call it a meeting?
19:37:26 <nirik> ok. Thanks for coming everyone!
19:37:29 <nirik> #endmeeting
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