20:02 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure
20:02 < zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 12 20:02:30 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:02 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:03 < skvidal> grumbel
20:03 -!- herlo [n=clints@fedora/herlo] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:03 < dgilmore> ::sigh::
20:03 < mmcgrath> who's here?
20:03 * ricky
20:03 * a-k is
20:03 < mdomsch> here briefly
20:04 < mdomsch> customer presentation in ~10m to leave for
20:04 * nirik is around in the back
20:04 * Oxf13
20:04 < mmcgrath> Ok, so lets get started.
20:05 < mmcgrath> So, we've got a release next week!
20:06 < mmcgrath> 3 cheers!
20:06 < mmcgrath> So, lets go over the tickets to make sure we're in good shape.
20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: you around by chance?
20:06 < skvidal> he said he was
20:06 < ricky> mmcgrath: Yup
20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: so lets do this one first
20:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1788
20:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788
20:07 < mmcgrath> What exactly is going to happen come tuesday?
20:07 < ricky> There will be a DNS switch for spins.fp.o to point to the proxies in advance (and extra link checking on that site once the torrents come out)
20:07 * herlo is here
20:08 -!- npatil [firstname.lastname@example.org] has quit Remote closed the connection
20:08 < ricky> Apart from that, it'll be the normal process for pushing out the new process - syncStatic will be pointed at the f12 branch
20:08 < ricky> We'll also be updating http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Websites_Release_SOP as we go this time
20:08 < mmcgrath> so http://spins-test.fedoraproject.org/ is 100% completed?
20:09 < ricky> I need to ask sijis about the blank download tab, but modulo some last minute browser/link checking, it should be done
20:09 < mmcgrath> Ok.
20:09 * mmcgrath just wants to make sure no surprises for that since it's the one major difference this round.
20:09 < mmcgrath> ricky: anything else on that?
20:10 < dgilmore> ricky: are we going to put the desktop[ spin on the spins page?
20:10 < mmcgrath> I thought I saw it there once. Maybe only in a mockup.
20:10 < ricky> I didn't think so, but we can double check the initial email that the board sent to the websites team with the requirements
20:10 < mmcgrath> I assume if it's not there now it won't be at least by release day?
20:10 -!- thomasj [n=thomasj@fedora/thomasj] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:10 < ricky> It won't be there on release day
20:11 < mmcgrath> k
20:11 < mmcgrath> well if it's decided we need it we can always add it later.
20:11 < mmcgrath> ricky: thanks
20:11 < mmcgrath> Ok
20:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1787
20:11 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1787 (Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1787
20:11 < mmcgrath> We've had a pretty good freeze so far, except for ibiblio1
20:11 < mmcgrath> but it's all taken care of now.
20:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1789
20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789
20:12 < mmcgrath> smooge: you comfortable with this?
20:12 < smooge> one sec
20:13 < smooge> we will go over until Oxf13 removes alpha/beta
20:13 < mmcgrath> k, and we've also got 9 to remove for extra buffer.
20:13 < Oxf13> I hope to be removing those today
20:13 < mmcgrath> 9 is competely my fault, I forgot to get /pub/archives/ setup during the freeze.
20:13 < smooge> ok as soon as 9 goes we are beut
20:13 < mmcgrath> but I'd think with all that taken care of, we'll be in our normal window for a normal release.
20:13 < mmcgrath> smooge: excellent, go ahead and note that in the ticket and close it.
20:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1792
20:14 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1792 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1792
20:14 < smooge> I thought it was there til this release
20:14 < mmcgrath> They know, I'll send another ticket.
20:14 < mmcgrath> smooge: naw, that one's kind of a one time thing, verify we have enough space for the release. If we do. Go ahead and close it.
20:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1790
20:14 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1790 (Verify RELENG permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1790
20:15 < mmcgrath> smooge: this one though (also to you) has kind of two parts.
20:15 < mmcgrath> which should stay open until after the launch.
20:15 < mmcgrath> Oxf13: you said you'll be staging pretty soon here?
20:15 * mdomsch has to run to a presentation
20:15 < mdomsch> 2 things:
20:15 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: take it
20:15 < mdomsch> 1) how early can we bitflip? hours early please. :-)
20:15 < mdomsch> give mirrors time to catch the bitflip themselves
20:16 < smooge> working on that one til it gets over into staging and then check
20:16 < mmcgrath> Oxf13: thoughts ^^ ?
20:16 < mdomsch> 2) no 'at' installed on bapp1, so someone (me) has to manually run manage-repo-redirects -r -v 12
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: we'll do it just like we did Beta, I can bit flip it 4~ hours in advance
20:16 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: do you want at?
20:16 < mdomsch> to drop the last of the f12 redirects
20:16 < mmcgrath> seems reasonable for it to be on bapp1
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: oh.
20:16 < Oxf13> mdomsch: those redirects will be dropped soon
20:16 < Oxf13> I'm going to make the Everything/ tree live early
20:16 * dgilmore is ok with at being on bapp1
20:17 < Oxf13> so that we can drop the redirects, and move rawhide on to F13
20:17 < mdomsch> Oxf13, ok, just say when
20:17 < mdomsch> that's all I have
20:17 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: thanks, enjoy your presentation!
20:17 < mmcgrath> ok
20:17 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1793
20:17 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1793 (Modify Template:FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1793
20:17 < mmcgrath> stickster_afk still has this one
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1794
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1794 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1794
20:18 < mmcgrath> not until after the release
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1795
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1795 (Enable caching wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1795
20:18 < mmcgrath> I'll get this setup on monday.
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1796
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1796 (Disable wiki caching) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1796
20:18 < mmcgrath> I'll do that on Wed
20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1797
20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797
20:18 < mmcgrath> smooge: this one's assigned to you, I suspect you can do this even before F12 launches. I'm not sure if that'd throw an error or divide by zero or something though.
20:19 * mmcgrath is looking at this page btw -
20:19 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:19 < mmcgrath> it dawned on me I hadn't sent that.
20:20 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have any questions or concerns related to the release?
20:20 < dgilmore> none
20:20 < mmcgrath> I'm happy we got ibiblio1 fixed before the rush
20:20 < mmcgrath> reminder to everyone, if you can seed the torrent, do it
20:20 < mmcgrath> the last few releases (including pre-releases) it's mostly been me, dgilmore and nirik
20:21 * nirik will seed.
20:21 < mmcgrath> and the downloads via torrent for a primary release are pretty popular. The more solid seeders we have the better experience it is for the downloader.
20:21 < dgilmore> as will I
20:21 < mmcgrath> alrighty
20:21 < mmcgrath> #topic some new sponsors
20:21 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: some new sponsors (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:22 < mmcgrath> One thing I wanted to mention is we might be getting sponsorship soon by someone providing servers in the UK and canada.
20:22 < smooge> I will have that ticket closed by tomorrow
20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: that would be cool
20:22 < mmcgrath> the details are still all up in the air but I like to be transparent about stuff like that so keep an eye out!
20:22 < smooge> ooooh
20:22 < smooge> I want to do site installs
20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: as would some boxes in apac
20:22 < mmcgrath> hehehe
20:23 < mmcgrath> indeed.
20:23 < mmcgrath> so that's all I've got on that.
20:23 < mmcgrath> oh
20:23 < mmcgrath> #topic ibiblio1
20:23 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: ibiblio1 (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:23 < skvidal> what fun
20:23 < skvidal> anything else wrong, now? or is it fine?
20:23 < mmcgrath> I guess if you weren't paying attention you might have missed this and just known a bunch of downtime was scheduled.
20:23 < mmcgrath> skvidal: thanks to you and don, all is well
20:23 < dgilmore> skvidal: you rock
20:23 < mmcgrath> basically we had some memory issues. reported it to IBM, they had us do the swap game.
20:24 * skvidal is the master of 'xm con; login; sudo halt -p'
20:24 < mmcgrath> then had us do the swap game again
20:24 < skvidal> dgilmore: hardly - I was playing monkey with a keyboard
20:24 < mmcgrath> then shipped the memory out and we got it replaced.
20:24 < mmcgrath> but now all is well
20:24 < mmcgrath> knock
20:24 < mmcgrath> on
20:24 < mmcgrath> wood
20:24 < skvidal> dgilmore: don and mmcgrath did the real work - don for actually doing the memory swapping, mmcgrath for dealing with ibm
20:24 < skvidal> mmcgrath: no kidding knock on wood
20:24 < dgilmore> skvidal: but you play it really really well
20:24 < skvidal> mmcgrath: do you have ibm on speed dial?
20:25 < dgilmore> im pretty sure he does
20:25 < mmcgrath> skvidal: I do for my soft phone, It's only got 2 speed dial numbers
20:25 < skvidal>
20:25 < mmcgrath> interestingly I have to call their toll line as the toll free line doesn't work with RH's voip setup.
20:25 < mmcgrath> as strange as that is.
20:26 < mmcgrath> it doesn't actually ring, it goes straight to 'press blah for blah' and for some reason our setup doesn't realize that so I just keep hearing ringing
20:26 < mmcgrath> anyway
20:26 < mmcgrath> that's it on that
20:26 < mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:26 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Open Floor (Meeting topic: Infrastructure)
20:26 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:26 < smooge> I am working on getting various hosting today done.
20:26 < skvidal> what are we doing about the weather? It's way too cold and rainy here
20:27 < smooge> I need some help on altering groups I messed up with.
20:27 < skvidal> - oh - you meant anything relevant to discuss
20:27 < smooge> we are going to have snow today
20:27 < mmcgrath> skvidal: well, I've been letting my car run to at least try to warm things up
20:27 < skvidal> mmcgrath: nice
20:27 < mmcgrath> smooge: sure, I can help with the group alteration
20:27 < smooge> I will try to SOP it up if needed
20:27 < smooge> s/try//
20:28 < mmcgrath> oh hey, and looks like openSuSE 11.2 is out for those looking to try it
20:28 < mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else we'll close early today in 30s.
20:29 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting
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20:29 < zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 20:29:41 2009 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
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20:29 < mmcgrath> booya!
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