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Ricky Zhou 10-09-2008 08:33 PM

Meeting Log - 2008-10-09
 
20:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here?
20:00 < G> boo
20:00 < dgilmore> not I
20:00 < jcollie> hello
20:00 < mdomsch> barely
20:00 * ValHolla grabs a seat
20:00 < mmcgrath> G: boo?
20:01 < mmcgrath> its not halloween yet!
20:01 < G> mmcgrath: :)
20:01 * ivazquez is here for once
20:01 < mmcgrath> heh, lets look at the tickets.
20:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- The Dow is way down
20:01 -!- ValHolla [i=0c29727e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4aae136aecdd915] has quit Client Quit
20:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
20:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&g roup=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6
20:02 -!- ValHolla [i=0c29727e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8aa88275c5dc8cbb] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
20:02 < mmcgrath> jcollie: ping
20:02 < jcollie> nothin' :)
20:02 < mmcgrath> heheh k
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
20:02 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ^^^
20:02 * f13 is here
20:03 * ValHolla sits back down
20:03 < kcadieux> hello
20:04 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@p4FDD213F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:04 * ricky
20:05 < jcollie> i thought we were going to close this one?
20:05 < mmcgrath> we'll skip that for now
20:05 < mmcgrath> I thought so too.
20:05 * mmcgrath also hasn't heard much on
20:05 < mmcgrath> .ticket 740
20:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #740 (Loaning out system time to OLPC participants) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740
20:05 < mmcgrath> ok so
20:06 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- App farm and new bapp servers
20:06 < mdomsch> yea!
20:06 < mmcgrath> Did anyone have any questions about how our new farm works, bapp, etc?
20:06 < mmcgrath> any comments?
20:06 -!- brothers [n=brothers@66-234-43-147.nyc.cable.nyct.net] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:06 -!- finalzone [n=luya@fedora/Finalzone] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:06 < mdomsch> bapp* will be in phx
20:07 < mdomsch> we expect
20:07 < mmcgrath> likely
20:07 < mdomsch> ?
20:07 < mdomsch> good
20:07 < mmcgrath> There's still some jobs to move to bapp1, in particular the damned lies stuff
20:08 < mmcgrath> K, well if there's nothing else there..
20:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- telia1 and ibiblio1
20:08 < mmcgrath> We now have proxy servers in 4 locations.
20:09 < mmcgrath> 1 in germany, 3 in the states.
20:09 < mmcgrath> 5 proxy servers total (two of them are in PHX)
20:09 < mmcgrath> this will give us far more flexability during problems as well as distribute network load more evenly on release day.
20:09 < mmcgrath> it will also let us take a closer look at geoIP and DNS
20:09 < G> mmcgrath: what happens if WWI happens all over again? :)
20:10 < mmcgrath> we'll have to find an oil rig
20:10 < mmcgrath> or one of google's new cruise ships :)
20:10 < mmcgrath> At present, I'm thinking that 5 proxy servers more then suits our needs.
20:10 < G> sounds good, I thought maybe host a server in Iraq or something :)
20:11 < jcollie> G: i nominate anyone but me to go install that one
20:11 < mmcgrath> I'd like to focus on our caching policies and stuff. But I don't see a need to add additional proxy servers at this time. And if a new site comes up in asia, europe or south america, we may move one of our proxy servers there.
20:11 < G> mmcgrath: from an APAC view, I'd like to be bias and say, one somewhere out this way would be nice
20:11 < mmcgrath> G: yeah, that area could certainly use one
20:12 < jcollie> something in africa would be good too, but that'd be almost as fun as the iraq one
20:12 < mmcgrath> heh
20:12 < G> if we can get a site, Australia/New Zealand/Singapore/Japan or something we'd be covering all the regions
20:12 < mmcgrath> if there's nothing else there we'll move on :)
20:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Duke, planet, buildsys, people, torrent.
20:13 < jcollie> if fedora on olpc takes off there could be a lot if activity from africa
20:13 < G> isn't buildsys at SB now?
20:13 < mmcgrath> At this time the old buildsys and torrent boxes are no longer being used (hosted at duke)
20:13 < G> jcollie: true
20:13 < mmcgrath> G: it is.
20:13 < mmcgrath> seth is also working to move planet and people to a combined machine at Boston University.
20:13 < G> k, I was thinking I was going even more potty :)
20:13 < mmcgrath> this is for a couple of reasins, the primary one being that the hardware that people and planet is on right now are just woefully out of date.
20:13 < jcollie> are the systems at duke worth re-purposing?
20:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: not that we can use but, IIRC, they've already been taken care of.
20:14 * mmcgrath is almost afraid to know how old that torrent box is.
20:14 < mmcgrath> but new torrent is in ibiblio
20:14 < mmcgrath> buildsys is at SB
20:14 < G> mmcgrath: loan boxes to OLPC :)
20:14 < mmcgrath> heh
20:15 < mmcgrath> so thats just kind of a heads up. I'm hoping to update our global map to reflect that soon as its completed.
20:15 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Puppet (sysctl)
20:15 -!- tibbs [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit "Konversation terminated!"
20:16 < mmcgrath> For those of you that aren't familiar we added sysctl support to puppet a couple days back. I'm going to be making more change that as we go forward.
20:16 < mmcgrath> I'm also, very slowly, completing our conversion to module
20:16 < mmcgrath> s
20:16 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions on that? or anything thats come up since puppet training?
20:17 < ricky> We should push for high quality modules that we can make public
20:17 * jcollie says modules good
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah
20:17 < ricky> Some modules, like the haproxy one contain Fedora-specific configs, so we need to think about how to do that the "puppet" way
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: well, even that module is useful. Just takes someone to alter that file (which they'd have to do anyway for their environment)
20:18 < mmcgrath> it gets trickier if haproxy required something strange that was specific to Fedora
20:18 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else on that?
20:19 < mmcgrath> Ok, well thats really all I had this week.
20:19 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:19 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything they'd like to discuss related to Infrastructure ?
20:19 < abadger1999> publictest machines.
20:19 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: sure, whats up?
20:20 < abadger1999> How many do we have up now? Do we have resources to make more?
20:20 < abadger1999> Is there a SOP? :-)
20:20 < ricky> The new "rule" is that they just stay out of PHX, right?
20:20 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit "Konversation terminated!"
20:20 < mmcgrath> I think we just have one or two up, and we can make more at telia1 and ibiblio1
20:20 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: no SOP really, just the kickstart and dns SOP's are needed.
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20:21 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: do you want one? I can walk you through making one if you have any questions, or I can just throw one together.
20:22 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: You shouuld probably walk me through making one.
20:22 < jcollie> do you have to be in -main to create a new PT system?
20:22 < G> jcollie: yep
20:22 < G> jcollie: shall we say "damn" together ? :P
20:22 < abadger1999> I think dmalcolm's rpmgrok and rnorwood's amber have yet to land somewhere post-incident.
20:22 < abadger1999> ricky: Am I right on that?
20:22 < G> abadger1999: thats my understanding...
20:22 < ricky> Yup.
20:22 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma@92.50.110.191] has quit "Leaving"
20:23 < G> abadger1999: + QA don't have anywhere for testopia/etc
20:23 < G> to errr test anyway
20:23 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: I'd assume it had ended up on pt15.
20:24 < ricky> Haha, we all logged in at the same minute :-)
20:24 < abadger1999> heh :-)
20:25 < abadger1999> Hmm.... Okay, there's plenty of free memory there right now.
20:25 < abadger1999> I'll get those guys using it and you can walk me through creating a new pt instance if they outgrow it.
20:26 < mmcgrath> sure thing
20:26 < mmcgrath> Ok, well, we're only about a half hour in. Does anyone else have anything to discuss? if not we'll close the meeting early
20:26 < abadger1999> Cool. That's all I have.
20:27 * G thinks
20:27 < ricky> Infrastructure contact info? :-)
20:28 < G> wwoods says they can't use Testopia because of legal
20:28 < mmcgrath> ricky: I actually have that. I'll email you after the meeting
20:28 < ricky> Coool
20:28 < G> wwoods: are you guys actually looking at any other options?
20:29 < ricky> Compose hosts stuff done? Will F10 be made entirely on our infrastructure? :-)
20:29 < wwoods> at the moment, no. dmalcolm was working on a new frontend that used the same database
20:29 < wwoods> but I haven't heard anything about that in a couple of months
20:29 < G> k, so I guess QA doesn't need a PT machine then
20:29 < wwoods> at the moment, no
20:30 < G> wwoods: I guess that means you guys want the QA wiki namespace?
20:30 * G recalls that as the alternative
20:31 < mmcgrath> well, if they do need one wwoods knows who to tell :)
20:31 < wwoods> too busy dealing with F10 release process stuff to mess with that now, but... exactly
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else to discuss? If not I'll close the meeting in 30
20:31 < G> mmcgrath: nope
20:32 < mmcgrath> 15
20:32 < G> except git is a pain...
20:32 < mmcgrath> yes it is :)
20:32 < mmcgrath> 5
20:32 < G> I symlink the wrong update script and it goes haywire :)
20:32 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End
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seth vidal 10-09-2008 08:56 PM

Meeting Log - 2008-10-09
 
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:33 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> 20:13 < mmcgrath> At this time the old buildsys and torrent boxes are no longer being used (hosted at duke)
> 20:13 < G> jcollie: true
> 20:13 < mmcgrath> G: it is.
> 20:13 < mmcgrath> seth is also working to move planet and people to a combined machine at Boston University.
> 20:13 < G> k, I was thinking I was going even more potty :)
> 20:13 < mmcgrath> this is for a couple of reasins, the primary one being that the hardware that people and planet is on right now are just woefully out of date.
> 20:13 < jcollie> are the systems at duke worth re-purposing?
> 20:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: not that we can use but, IIRC, they've already been taken care of.
> 20:14 * mmcgrath is almost afraid to know how old that torrent box is.
> 20:14 < mmcgrath> but new torrent is in ibiblio
> 20:14 < mmcgrath> buildsys is at SB
> 20:14 < G> mmcgrath: loan boxes to OLPC :)


The boxes at duke are both looooooooong out of warranty so not a good
choice for us to use. They've also been spoken for by others.

Sorry I missed the meeting, I didn't see the ping.
-sv


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"Jeffrey Ollie" 10-10-2008 05:07 PM

Meeting Log - 2008-10-09
 
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM, seth vidal <skvidal@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> The boxes at duke are both looooooooong out of warranty so not a good
> choice for us to use. They've also been spoken for by others.

If we had some new boxes would it be worth having Duke host them? Is
Duke even willing to continue hosting Fedora systems?

--
Jeff Ollie

"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve
them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe."

-- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon"

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