Meeting Log - 2008-06-26
16:04 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here?
16:04 < ivazquez> Pong.
16:04 < mmcgrath> ok, who's around?
16:04 * ianweller
16:04 * iWolf
16:04 * Anvil goes sleeping
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16:04 * pembo13 is just a bystander
16:05 * ricky
16:05 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started
16:05 < G> I'm here
16:05 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
16:05 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&g roup=milestone&keywords=~Meeting&order=priority
16:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y
16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395
16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
16:06 < mmcgrath> jcollie: did I read you right earlier, this is mostly ready but not yet in Fedora?
16:07 < jcollie> um
16:07 < mmcgrath> or were you talking about ice cast and I just wasn't paying attention?
16:07 < jcollie> i was using a newer version of flumotion than whats in flumotion
16:07 * f13
16:07 < jcollie> no i'm not using ice cast
16:07 < mmcgrath> k
16:07 < mmcgrath> so whats our plan for flumotion then?
16:08 < jcollie> i've got a little one line script that faked asterisk into thinking it's talking to ice cast
16:08 < ianweller> wait, why are we not using icecast?
16:08 < jcollie> flumotion is way cooler
16:09 < ianweller> i guess i'll just take your word for it.
16:09 < ianweller> :P
16:09 * ricky wonders if herlo knows about this stuff as well
16:09 < mmcgrath> jcollie: so whats our plan for implementation going forward? can we use EPEL or do we have to use the infrastructure repo?
16:09 < ricky> (He was the person with the streaming setup at FUDCon)
16:09 < jcollie> i need to build the rpms for flumotion and get them into the infra repo... eventually fedora proper will catch up
16:09 < jcollie> .whoowns flumotion
16:09 < zodbot> jcollie: thomasvs
16:09 < ianweller> i was just about to do that.
16:09 < ianweller> heh
16:10 < SmootherFrOgZ> jcollie: fedora should
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16:10 < SmootherFrOgZ> and then go to epel as well
16:10 < mmcgrath> jcollie: k, if you wouldn't mind, contact thomasvs and let him know what we're up to and that we'd like to get that all figured out.
16:10 < jcollie> we should talk to thomasvs about updates... i was using a prerelease version because the released version is quite old
16:10 < mmcgrath> anything else there?
16:11 < jcollie> we need to get some nice ways of provisioning conference rooms and controlling the audio streams
16:11 < mmcgrath> yeah, conference rooms in the config file is inconvenient.
16:11 < jcollie> yeah inconvenient and error-prone possibly
16:12 < mmcgrath> side note, 98 people have enabled their voip extensions.
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16:12 < ricky> :-)
16:12 < mmcgrath> jcollie: ok, anything else?
16:12 < jcollie> plus would be good to figure out a way to dial them in the directory
16:12 < SmootherFrOgZ> and what about stun, anything new ?
16:12 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: we've just been telling people that need it to use stunserver.org
16:12 < ricky> Aren't there free online stun servers?
16:13 < jcollie> in addition to standard open conference room we need to figure out how best to do a closed room for the board
16:13 < jcollie> stun.ekiga.net and stunserver.org work well
16:13 < SmootherFrOgZ> nice
16:13 < mmcgrath> jcollie: yeah, and that will likely need a rotating password since they can have different people each week join
16:13 < SmootherFrOgZ> need to be edit on talk.fp.org
16:13 < jcollie> i think that stunserver.org will even let you CNAME to something like stun.fedoraproject.org
16:14 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: its there - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/usage
16:14 < jcollie> either rotating passwords or some sort of invitation system
16:14 < mmcgrath> <nod>
16:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: anything else?
16:14 < jcollie> i think that's it
16:15 < mmcgrath> solid
16:15 < mmcgrath> next ticket
16:15 < mmcgrath> .ticket 398
16:15 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #398 (elfutils `monotone' (mtn) error) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/398
16:15 < mmcgrath> monotone and fedorahosted.
16:15 < mmcgrath> AFAIK this is blocking on people and things that just don't care that much about it.
16:15 < jcollie> no gnus is good gnus?
16:15 < mmcgrath> I should probably remove it it from the meeting list at least.
16:15 < Bouska> bye
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16:16 < jcollie> yeah i think that we limit monotone to elfutils until it gets sorted out
16:16 < mmcgrath> jcollie: that shouldn't be too hard ;)
16:16 < mmcgrath> ok
16:16 < ricky> Hehe
16:16 < G> jcollie: I was going to say thata :P
16:16 < jcollie> any new requests need to use something else
16:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446
16:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
16:16 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: anything on the spins page? its 4 months old :-P
16:17 * mmcgrath thinks dgilmore might be away while he's traveling today
16:17 < mmcgrath> we'll move on
16:17 < f13> he's not traveling yet
16:17 < mmcgrath> .ticket 547
16:17 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547
16:17 < SmootherFrOgZ> ho wait
16:18 < G> mmcgrath: are the servers arriving?
16:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> could we have on the spins list, the french one, built by some french contributor ?
16:18 < mmcgrath> So the new db server has shipped and should be in PHX now. I'm planning another trip out in July to get it installed and hopefully remove the old servers.
16:18 < G> mmcgrath: that includes the two app servers?
16:18 < ricky> Old servesr?
16:18 < ricky> **servers
16:18 < mmcgrath> G: it does.
16:18 < ricky> As in, we're retiring old builders, I guess?
16:18 < iWolf> mmmm PHX in July - hot!
16:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah, lockbox, db1 and probably proxy1 are going to go bye bye.
16:19 < G> mmcgrath: brilliant, holla if you need any assistance
16:19 < ricky> Ah, cool
16:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: I might just let the builders die horribly on their own.
16:19 < mmcgrath> G: will do.
16:19 < ricky> Heh
16:19 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: not sure what you mean by "the french one" But you should talk to the spins list people.
16:19 < G> mmcgrath: sounds like a plain :)
16:19 < G> *plan
16:19 < mmcgrath> .ticket 576
16:19 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #576 (Infrastructure Contact Information) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/576
16:19 < mmcgrath> G: whats up with that?
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16:20 < G> I've got nothing set in stone, I still like the idea of something away from Fedora People though
16:20 < G> I'll try and work something out for next meeting
16:21 < mmcgrath> G: I guess my only take on that is that right now we have nothing and it's more of a "it'd be nice to have something"
16:22 < G> more it'd be good to have something
16:22 < mmcgrath> but if that something needs to be maintained, backed up, etc with no other benefit... then it's probably not worth it.
16:22 < mmcgrath> we could use a crypted filesystem
16:22 * ricky is perfectly fine with a single text file put in some good place with proper permissions.
16:23 < mmcgrath> ricky: well there's other stuff I'd like to put there like the inventory for example
16:23 < G> yeah, I'm still thinking along the lines of a sysadmin1 box or something where we can do all our sqling from etc
16:23 < ricky> Ah, yeah.
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16:23 < mmcgrath> G: eh, sqling is a pretty rare thing, and should probably be done from a pre-existing box like noc1
16:23 < G> mmcgrath: yeah, I just thought of that one moments ago
16:24 < G> it was just with the elections app, still a little bit of manual legwork (to be corrected)
16:24 < mmcgrath> G: needless to say, still working on it and thinking about options?
16:24 < G> yep
16:24 < mmcgrath> solid, we'll move to the next ticket
16:24 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361
16:24 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361
16:24 < G> Too big imo
16:25 < mmcgrath> paulobanon: you around?
16:25 < mmcgrath> jcollie: I see you put this in the Meeting request.
16:25 < ricky> Is that legal logo usage?
16:25 < ricky> ianweller: ^^
16:25 < ianweller> what is
16:25 < ianweller> 361?
16:25 < ricky> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_hosted_logo
16:25 < G> It's not going to make a very nice favicon.ico and it's just going to bloat the header part of trac
16:25 < jcollie> yeah, i was hoping it was something we could dispose of quickly
16:26 * mmcgrath sees if the miz is around
16:26 < ianweller> ricky: afaik, no.
16:26 < ricky> Yeah, that's what I was thinking :-( it looked cool, though
16:26 < jcollie> hmm yeah, the colors, etc
16:26 < mmcgrath> Do we want a square up there?
16:26 -!- mizmo [n=duffy@nat/redhat-us/x-3ca53765208ce0f1] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:26 < mizmo> hi
16:27 < ricky> mizmo: Hey, we were discussing:
16:27 < mmcgrath> mizmo: we're talking about
16:27 < jcollie> in general though what do people think of a fedorahosted logo instead of the default trac logo?
16:27 < ricky> .ticket 261
16:27 < zodbot> ricky: #261 (Expired SSL certificate on https://cvs.fedoraproject.org) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/261
16:27 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361
16:27 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361
16:27 < ricky> Oops, what mmcgrath said :-)
16:27 < ianweller> ricky: fail! :P
16:27 < mizmo> oh i did onwe
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16:27 < mizmo> i did a logo for fedora hosted a while back
16:27 < mmcgrath> do we want a square up there?
16:27 < mizmo> lesse if i can find it
16:28 < G> mmcgrath: my point before exactly
16:28 < mizmo> it would be nicer than the trac logo wouldnt it
16:28 < ianweller> mizmo: we were wondering if http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_hosted_logo did not follow the logo usage guidelines
16:28 < ianweller> which i'm pretty sure it doesn't
16:28 < mizmo> ianweller, nope it doesnt
16:28 < mizmo> oh thats weird
16:28 < mizmo> i did a logo before that request was filled
16:29 < mmcgrath> mizmo: did it vanish in the migration?
16:29 < mizmo> mmcgrath, could be im still looking
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16:31 < mizmo> found it
16:31 < mizmo> http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Artwork_PromoBanners_fedora-hosted-banner-garden.png
16:31 < ricky> Ahh.
16:32 < mmcgrath> G: ianweller: ricky: what do we think of that one?
16:32 < mizmo> (just the logo + HOSTED text)
16:32 < G> mizmo: now thats okay!
16:32 < mizmo> (don't need the garden bg that was for the banner to display in the upper left of FPO)
16:32 < ricky> Heh, I like the garden analogy.
16:33 < G> mizmo: thats wonderful (nice and simple)
16:33 < jcollie> i like it except for the "introducing..."
16:33 < mizmo> if you like it maybe we could use the garden graphics somehow
16:33 < G> yeah the introducing is wrong
16:33 < mizmo> jcollie, oh yeh that text wouldn't be there, the logo is part of a banner design i did for FPO
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16:33 < ricky> Does that take any attention away from the name of the project itself, though?
16:33 < f13> hrm, is the 'start a $foo, watch it grow' really close to a slogan for some other product?
16:33 < dgilmore> im here
16:34 < f13> ricky: well, each project can have their own logo
16:34 < mizmo> ricky, i'd think projects would use it as a placeholder until they got their own logo
16:34 < G> f13: hmmm?
16:34 < f13> we're just talking about a default one.
16:34 < SmootherFrOgZ> f13: +1
16:34 < f13> G: the 'watch it grow' seems very familiar
16:34 < mizmo> f13, is this a trivia quiz? let me guess
16:34 < mmcgrath> f13: a Chia Pet?
16:34 < mizmo> start a ninja, watch him nunchuck?
16:34 < mmcgrath> Cha Cha Cha Chia
16:34 < f13> I don't think it was even that.
16:34 < stickster> mmcgrath: That's watch it grow
16:34 < f13> but don't mind me.
16:35 < mizmo> hehe
16:35 < G> f13: I don't think it's used in the computing circles
16:35 < stickster> mmcgrath: Do you use compost with Chia Pets?
16:35 < mmcgrath> ok, so whats the plan for this ticket?
16:35 < mmcgrath> stickster: no but I should, I really should.
16:35 < ricky> Haha, I almost got fooled when I saw "foss" in this URL: http://www.fossweb.com/modulesK-2/NewPlants/index.html
16:35 < mizmo> "Help Farmer Jane plant your garden, and watch it grow!"
16:36 < f13> don't worry about it
16:36 < mmcgrath> mizmo: do you have the source for that image available somewhere or would you mind making whatever changes we need directly?
16:36 < mizmo> mmcgrath, i do, and i would be happy to make whatever changes you need
16:37 < mmcgrath> solid
16:37 < mmcgrath> ianweller: ricky: do either one of you want to take ownership of that ticket and make it so?
16:37 * ianweller wakes up
16:37 < ianweller> which ticket?
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16:37 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361
16:37 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361
16:38 < mmcgrath> sounds like mizmo is willing to make whatever changes we want, then we just need to get it on the host.
16:38 < ricky> Sure thing - it'll just be a line or two of puppet changes.
16:38 * ianweller pushes it to ricky then :P
16:38 < mizmo> so ill make it so it's just the logo with maybe some plants next to it?
16:38 < ricky> I'm already getting mail on that ticket, so I'll keep an eye out for it once we get the image
16:38 < mizmo> and take out the slogan and introducing text?
16:38 < ianweller> keep the 'start a project. watch it grow'
16:39 < mizmo> okay
16:39 < ianweller> i'd say make it probably more wide, less height...
16:39 < mmcgrath> excellent, so anything else on that for this meeting or can we move on?
16:39 < ricky> mizmo: Sure - whatever you think works for the top banner on a hosted site
16:40 < jcollie> sounds good to me
16:40 < mmcgrath> mizmo: thanks for stopping in! Most helpful :)
16:40 < mmcgrath> next ticket
16:40 < mmcgrath> .ticket 447
16:40 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #447 (Downloading binary files via trac browser creates a traceback) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/447
16:40 < mmcgrath> err not that one
16:40 < mmcgrath> .ticket 448
16:40 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448
16:40 * ricky pinged ajax in #fedora-devel
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16:41 < ricky> We spoke about this briefly at FUDCon.
16:41 < ricky> ajax: Hey, we were talking about:
16:41 < ricky> .ticket 448
16:41 < zodbot> ricky: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448
16:41 < ricky> (Woo, I got it that time!)
16:41 < mmcgrath> so we want a quotes repo of some kind?
16:41 < ajax> well, we have one
16:41 < ajax> the problem is the group it belongs to.
16:41 < ricky> So yeah, we spoke about this a bit at FUDCon, but I don't 100% remember the conclusion (was it just to use fedorapeople?)
16:42 * ianweller wrote a qdb software at one time, but its in php
16:42 * mmcgrath pokes on hosted1 real quick.
16:42 < mizmo> mmcgrath, np
16:42 < ricky> Right now, it's a gitfedora-quotes
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16:42 < ajax> the account system requires that joining a group is apply-then-approve.
16:42 < jcollie> we could change membership to cla_done...
16:42 < ajax> there's no way to just add yourself to a group and have it take effect
16:42 < ricky> jcollie: That would require giving everybody in cla_done SSH stuff on hosted1
16:42 < mmcgrath> ah
16:42 < mmcgrath> doesn't fedorabugs do that?
16:43 < ricky> jcollie: (and making cla_done a git group)
16:43 < jcollie> ricky: hmm ok that's bad then
16:43 < mmcgrath> ricky: we could have it owned by cla_done
16:43 < mmcgrath> that'd at least let everyone with an account already to have access.
16:43 < f13> you should be able create a group that doesn't require sponsorship
16:43 < ricky> We do have autojoin stuff working, but it'd still have everybody in cla_done on hosted1
16:43 < G> cla_done as a git group, no thank you
16:43 < ricky> That's what we wanted - something where anybody can get in, but only if they take some action
16:43 < G> that'd be as bad having cla_done requiring some git group which we had already :)
16:43 < ajax> f13: sponsorship groups require that a sponsor approve. non-sponsorship groups require that some other member approve.
16:44 < ajax> any other member.
16:44 < f13> ajax: blah
16:44 < jcollie> ricky: looks like everyone already has ssh on hosted1
16:44 < mmcgrath> The thing is that opens us up to abuse.
16:44 < ricky> ajax: non-sponsorship just means that the sponsorship isn't recorded.
16:44 < ricky> It's a minute difference
16:44 < ricky> But yeah, this is why I suggested fedorapeople :-)
16:44 < ajax> awesome.
16:44 < ricky> Ahhh!
16:45 < mmcgrath> the theory being that a sponsor is responsible for the person they sponsored.
16:45 < jcollie> well, since it's a git repo it'd be pretty easy to undo any vandalism
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16:45 < ricky> That's what we said - have a repo in fedorapeople that everybody can push to, then you can push from there to the fedorahosted project.
16:45 < mmcgrath> jcollie: is it though?
16:45 < mmcgrath> jcollie: if I stuck a bunch of child porn into one of our repos... how would you get rid of it?
16:45 < ajax> so yeah, my options are a world-pushable repo on fp.o that i pull from every once in a while, or i just continue to have to approve people.
16:46 < mmcgrath> ricky: hell, we could just make a repo on fedorahosted and make it world writable.
16:46 < ajax> mmcgrath: you _can_ push git trees that delete objects. it breaks people that already pulled them, but git isn't an append-only operation.
16:46 < ricky> mmcgrath: And give everybody in cla_done ssh on hosted1?
16:46 < mmcgrath> ajax: k
16:46 < mmcgrath> ricky: not sure yet.
16:46 < mmcgrath> I'd rather not
16:46 < mmcgrath> jeremy: you around?
16:46 < ricky> Yeah, that was my objection
16:46 * mmcgrath wonders if git:// can be configured for write
16:47 < jcollie> no it cant i don't think
16:47 < ricky> I'm pretty sure it can't be (but I could be wrong)
16:47 < G> mmcgrath: git+https?
16:47 < mmcgrath> eh
16:47 < jcollie> well, why don't we use a model more like the kernel?
16:47 < ricky> That's pretty much what I was suggesting
16:47 < mmcgrath> jcollie: what model is that?
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16:48 < jcollie> where the main repo is controlled by ajax and people email him links to their repo thats hosted wherever they want
16:48 < ricky> well, except kind of in reverse
16:48 < ajax> i'm okay with it being "only people with fedora accounts" instead of "anyone in the world"
16:48 < ricky> I was eliminating one step y having people push to ajax's repo, the ajax pushing to the "main" fedorahosted one
16:48 < ajax> truly-world-writable is more than i'm asking for and probably not a good idea.
16:48 < mmcgrath> jcollie: we can do that but it shifts some burden onto ajax
16:49 < ajax> ... which is the whole thing i'm trying to avoid ;)
16:49 < ricky> Ah.
16:49 < mmcgrath> so how about this for now.
16:49 < ajax> if i'm going to have two repos, i might as well just do the sponsorship thing like i'm already doing.
16:49 < ricky> The simplest solution that I can think of is: cla_done-writable main repo on fedorapeople.org
16:49 < ricky> That gets you everything except for the git.fedorahosted.org URL
16:50 < mmcgrath> ricky: that seems reasonable.
16:50 < ajax> (and therefore gitweb. but sure.)
16:50 < mmcgrath> ajax: if we stick this thing somewhere other then fedorahosted will that be ok with you?
16:50 < mmcgrath> ajax: actually jeremy just got gitweb and git:// working on people1 IIRC.
16:50 < mmcgrath> just this week
16:50 < ricky> ajax: jeremy set that up recently :-0
16:51 < ricky> **:-)
16:51 < ajax> oh sweet.
16:51 < jcollie> jeremy has gitweb running on fedorapeople now
16:51 < ajax> that's why he was asking how we did it on fd.o then.
16:51 < ajax> i'm dumb
16:51 * ricky laughs at the quotes
16:51 < mmcgrath> ajax: think that solution will work for now at least?
16:51 < G> ajax: can we quote that one?
16:51 < ricky> (https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-quotes/browser/fedora-quotes)
16:51 < mmcgrath> it seems like with as open as we are we'd be able to do something _that_ open :)
16:52 < ricky> G: Hahaa
16:52 < ajax> mmcgrath: sure. go ahead and drop it from fh.o whenever, i've got a clone on my laptop i can push to fp.o
16:53 < mmcgrath> ajax: k, you should be able to acl it any way you want. If your space runs out let us know and we'll re-think our quota system there.
16:53 < mmcgrath> currently ols is doing something similar though (with fedorapeople)
16:53 < mmcgrath> ok, we're almost out of time so I'm just going to open the floor for the next 8 minutes or so
16:53 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
16:53 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything to discuss
16:53 < G> yeah, I had two things to discuss
16:53 < mmcgrath> G: didn't you have something?
16:53 < jcollie> hmm 150Mb should be a lot for just quotes
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16:54 < jcollie> maybe we could set up a "quotes" user so it gets its own 105MB quota?
16:54 < G> a) l10n wikis are nearly really trying to coordinate with everyone re that
16:54 < mmcgrath> G: whats the link to how that setup is going to work again?
16:55 < G> mmcgrath: theres a bit in my gitweb on fp.o
16:55 < G> .tiny http://fedorapeople.org/gitweb?p=nigelj/public_git/stuff.git;a=tree;f=wiki/l10n;hb=HEAD
16:55 < zodbot> G: http://tinyurl.com/3umdyn
16:55 < ricky> http://katzj.livejournal.com/430978.html
16:55 < G> https://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/en/wiki/ is the test wiki
16:55 < ricky> Oop, ajax disappeared :-/
16:56 < mmcgrath> G: also, side note, our *.fedoraproject.org deal should be ready soon.
16:56 < mmcgrath> do we want to wait and do it that way?
16:56 < ianweller> mmcgrath: with ssl certs?
16:56 * ianweller afk now
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16:56 < ricky> Wooo :-)
16:56 < mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah
16:56 < mmcgrath> I think they got ordered today
16:56 < G> _b_) sysadmin-noc stuff, we have ~10 members, but nothing is happening there so I'm going to send out some e-mails with stuff that needs to be done
16:57 < mmcgrath> G: excellent, do you have sponsorship status in sysadmin-noc?
16:57 < G> mmcgrath: yep
16:57 < G> we have at least TEN new hosts that aren't tracked in nagios
16:57 < mmcgrath> G: k, one thing thats almost ready is log1, and I'm working to make sure that read access is setup properly.
16:57 < mmcgrath> G: thanks for taking lead on that. I was hoping someone would step up :)
16:57 < G> and a handful of requests on fedorahosted that havn't seen any action
16:58 < jcollie> be nice to get asterisk1 monitored
16:58 < G> mmcgrath: need to speak to you about cacti
16:58 < ricky> Oh yeah.
16:58 < G> jcollie: yeah, thats the sort of things
16:58 < mmcgrath> G: no doubt. In my mind cacti is less important now then it was but still important.
16:58 < mmcgrath> jcollie: yeah, and collab1.
16:59 < mmcgrath> G: ok, so I'm excited to see that going, if you need anything from me, just ping.
16:59 < jcollie> i've tried to keep up on the new project requests on hosted but haven't looked much at the rest of the hosted tickets
16:59 < G> exactly, there is definately more than 10 hosts untracked
16:59 < G> (I know that because there are eight new builders :))
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16:59 < G> mmcgrath: whats the status on the ppc builders btw?
16:59 < ricky> PPC = no virt, right?
16:59 < mmcgrath> G: good question, dgilmore was going to handle it but I know he's had problems.
17:00 < mmcgrath> ricky: correct, and actually we didn't virt the x86 boxes either.
17:00 < G> mmcgrath: and finally, when do you expect the *.fp.o SSL cert?
17:00 < ricky> Ah.
17:00 < mmcgrath> G: I'd be surprised it it took more then a week or two at this point. My understanding is that verisign has the request now.
17:00 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ill try again today. i got access but did not have java installed
17:00 < mmcgrath> ahh
17:00 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: k.
17:00 < dgilmore> when i installed java firefox wouldnt start
17:00 < mmcgrath> ok, and with that. we are at the end of our time.
17:01 < mmcgrath> If no one has anything pressing we'll end the meeting in 30
17:01 < G> sounds fine by me
17:01 < mmcgrath> 15
17:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End
17:01 < mmcgrath> thanks for coming everyone!
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