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Old 08-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Jake
 
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In that case I might have already installed it without selecting it to dual boot with Windows XP, is there anyway to fix this either by Uninstalling Ubuntu or otherwise?


Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:37:52 +0200
From: mawale.me@gmail.com
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u have to configure your Grub that it'll show you your XP installation to boot from

otherwise u can read this link : it'll be usefull : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/dualboot.html


2008/8/4 Jake <ispaz@live.com>







I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..


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Old 08-04-2008, 08:33 AM
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you haven't to uninstall Ubuntu
al you have to do is to configure your Grub


Read this link : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/dualboot-custom.html

*it'll explain you haw to do it ;-) Enjoy

2008/8/4 Jake <ispaz@live.com>





In that case I might have already installed it without selecting it to dual boot with Windows XP, is there anyway to fix this either by Uninstalling Ubuntu or otherwise?


Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:37:52 +0200

From: mawale.me@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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u have to configure your Grub that it'll show you your XP installation to boot from

otherwise u can read this link : it'll be usefull : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/dualboot.html



2008/8/4 Jake <ispaz@live.com>







I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..



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Old 08-04-2008, 09:57 AM
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On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
>
Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm

Hope this helps





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Old 08-04-2008, 11:10 AM
Derek Broughton
 
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Leonard Bussey wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
>> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
>> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
>> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
>> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
>>
> Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
>
>
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm

Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.
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Old 08-04-2008, 11:34 AM
Res
 
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Derek Broughton wrote:

> Leonard Bussey wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
>>> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
>>> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
>>> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
>>> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
>>>
>> Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
>>
>>
> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm
>
> Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
> Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
> configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.

And the installer did not get it right for me (and 2 others that I know
of) none of us got the guided slidey thingy, but since we've done manual
dual boots before it was no drama, but maybe daunting for the newbie when
the isntlaler doesnt sdhow them what that guide shows them, hence they
give up and stay with winblows.



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Old 08-04-2008, 11:41 AM
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> > On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
> >> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
> >> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
> >> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
> >> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
> >>
> > Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
> >
> >
> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm
>
> Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
> Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
> configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.

You are absolutely correct in your assumption. I have set up several
machines with dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu and, in every case, the
installer got it correct. I started with a fully up to date Windows XP
Pro installed and then installed Ubuntu following the on screen
instructions. Then, on switching on from cold, the machines booted into
Ubuntu. To get Windows XP from Ubuntu do a warm boot or when switching
on from cold, as the machine starts to boot press the Esc key a few
times until the menu appears, select Windows, press enter and away you
go. I hope this is of some help.

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Old 08-04-2008, 11:57 AM
Res
 
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, norman wrote:

>
> You are absolutely correct in your assumption. I have set up several
> machines with dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu and, in every case, the
> installer got it correct. I started with a fully up to date Windows XP
> Pro installed and then installed Ubuntu following the on screen
> instructions. Then, on switching on from cold, the machines booted into
> Ubuntu. To get Windows XP from Ubuntu do a warm boot or when switching
> on from cold, as the machine starts to boot press the Esc key a few
> times until the menu appears, select Windows, press enter and away you
> go. I hope this is of some help.

Interesting I've also done a few, and in each one the menu just appears
allowing a cursor down to XP (god knows why you'd want to but hey...
whatever tickles your fancy), and this occurs on Slackware, Fedora and
Ubuntu, so I guess you've done something to your grub conf.


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Old 08-04-2008, 12:16 PM
Jake
 
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Well then maybe that was my problem.



> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:34:49 +1000
> From: res@ausics.net
> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Help
>
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> > Leonard Bussey wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
> >>> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
> >>> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
> >>> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
> >>> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
> >>>
> >> Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
> >>
> >>
> > http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm
> >
> > Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
> > Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
> > configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.
>
> And the installer did not get it right for me (and 2 others that I know
> of) none of us got the guided slidey thingy, but since we've done manual
> dual boots before it was no drama, but maybe daunting for the newbie when
> the isntlaler doesnt sdhow them what that guide shows them, hence they
> give up and stay with winblows.
>
>
>
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Old 08-04-2008, 03:34 PM
Derek Broughton
 
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norman wrote:

>
>> > On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
>> >> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
>> >> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
>> >> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
>> >> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
>> >>
>> > Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
>>
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.htm
>>
>> Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
>> Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
>> configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.
>
> You are absolutely correct in your assumption. I have set up several
> machines with dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu and, in every case, the
> installer got it correct.

Fine - but that's not much help if you (as Jake has) have already installed
both OS's and you don't have a grub menu. In my case, the installer got it
right with every install since Warty - except the time I installed to an
external drive, but there's enough anecdotal evidence that, even if there
isn't anything actually wrong with the installer, it's not too difficult
for a user to complete the install without getting grub properly set up.

That said, I think Nils probably got it right, with the menu just being
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:06 PM
Nigel Henry
 
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On Monday 04 August 2008 17:34, Derek Broughton wrote:
> norman wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 03:28 -0400, Jake wrote:
> >> >> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I installed it to work "with" Windows XP, and
> >> >> now I can't get to Windows XP anymore, it automatically boots into
> >> >> Ubuntu, I need help on how to either UNINSTALL Ubuntu or INSTRUCTIONS
> >> >> on how to get to Windows XP, all your help will be appreciated..
> >> >
> >> > Try this link. It explains all about dual booting XP with linux.
>
> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed _first.
>htm
>
> >> Actually, it doesn't. It's a nice tutorial for installing Linux onto a
> >> Windows machine, but it doesn't tell you anything about getting Grub
> >> configured - it just assumes that the installer gets that right.
> >
> > You are absolutely correct in your assumption. I have set up several
> > machines with dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu and, in every case, the
> > installer got it correct.
>
> Fine - but that's not much help if you (as Jake has) have already installed
> both OS's and you don't have a grub menu. In my case, the installer got it
> right with every install since Warty - except the time I installed to an
> external drive, but there's enough anecdotal evidence that, even if there
> isn't anything actually wrong with the installer, it's not too difficult
> for a user to complete the install without getting grub properly set up.
>
> That said, I think Nils probably got it right, with the menu just being
> hidden.
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It has to be said also that the default timeout of 5secs before Grub boots the
default kernel passes very quickly when you perhaps are a bit confused, and
you can find yourself being booted into Ubuntu, rather than having the time
to think of what to do to get the menu, and stop the countdown.

Judging from my latest Install "Fedora 9", pressing any old key stops the
countdown, and IIRC also brings up Grubs menu.

The first thing I do with a new install is to go into /boot/grub/grub.conf (or
menu.lst, if thats the only file there), and change the default timeout to
30secs, and comment out the hiddenmenu line.

Talking about Ubuntu/Kubuntu's Grub picking up other OS's on the system, it
finds every OS that it can that are on your drives, and adds them to Grubs
menu. I have one drive sda, which has all the distros on it, and another
drive sdb, which is just for data. The first 2 partitions on sdb are vfat
(FAT32). Grub always picks these up, and creates a chainloader to them, even
though no operating system exists on these partitions. Grub is obviously
assuming that these are Windows OS's on these partitions, which is why I
think that the OP already has a chainloader entry in his /boot/grub/menu.lst
for his XP install, but the speedy timeout, along with the hidden menu, has
prevented him seeing the option to boot XP under the "Other" menu entry.

I mean "Other" is a bit obscure as well, but Grub is doing it's best here, and
in my case, if I chose that option, would try to boot a drive with just data
on it, although perhaps looking like a Windows OS, as it's FAT32.

5˘ worth of Monday evening ramblings.

Nigel.

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