Business Case: Advantage Opensource Directory VS Active Directory
Hello all,
I have a question why i should use an opensource directory server for my
opensource activities!
I work for a large company! 70k users
We have a large MS Windows based infrastructure win2k3 with winxp
workstations.
For our open source servers and workstations we thought to get an
Opensource Directory server because of the specific options that Active
Directory cannot deliver.
But now i get a lot of people who say that active directory can do all of it!
Can someone help me with getting the right arguments so i have a valid
reason to create an opensource directory server?
The things i wanna administer are:
Sudoldap
Freeipa based authentication/dns
application management
and probably a lot more!
Please let me know!
With kind regards,
William van de Velde
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08-20-2008, 06:51 AM
Andrey Ivanov
Business Case: Advantage Opensource Directory VS Active Directory
Bonjour cobra,
Monday, August 18, 2008, 4:09:22 PM, you wrote:
cco> I have a question why i should use an opensource directory server for my
cco> opensource activities!
cco> I work for a large company! 70k users
cco> We have a large MS Windows based infrastructure win2k3 with winxp
cco> workstations.
cco> Can someone help me with getting the right arguments so i have a valid
cco> reason to create an opensource directory server?
You can try this document to begin with (written for a customer by
Symas and HP) : http://www.symas.com/documents/Adam-Eval1-0.pdf
Andrey Ivanov
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08-24-2008, 02:06 AM
"Merle Reine"
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Been using Fedora Directory Server since its inception and up until recently, I would have recommended it above all others.* I am a Linux guru, windows hater and favor open source over any proprietary product.* That being said,* I recently switched to a new company and they happen to be all XP and 2003 server along with exchange.
Having had the opportunity to work now with both FDS and Active Directory,* I can tell you from first hand experience, Active Directory wins hands down.* It was easy to setup, easy to replicate, support 6,000 users currently at my office and is easily running on a dual core system while hardly using any resources.
I am no lover of Microsoft or any of its products but switching to ADAM was the best move i could have made.* There is no comparison on ease of setup, ease of management, stability.* ADAM wins hands down as much as I hate to say it, its true.
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08-24-2008, 09:28 AM
solarflow99
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I've used them both too, and I never noticed any real advantage with AD.* In fact, FDS would do everything just like you said, and I wasnt forced into vendor lock-in to do it.* What were your main drawbacks with LDAP?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Merle Reine <merle.reine@gmail.com> wrote:
Been using Fedora Directory Server since its inception and up until recently, I would have recommended it above all others.* I am a Linux guru, windows hater and favor open source over any proprietary product.* That being said,* I recently switched to a new company and they happen to be all XP and 2003 server along with exchange.
Having had the opportunity to work now with both FDS and Active Directory,* I can tell you from first hand experience, Active Directory wins hands down.* It was easy to setup, easy to replicate, support 6,000 users currently at my office and is easily running on a dual core system while hardly using any resources.
I am no lover of Microsoft or any of its products but switching to ADAM was the best move i could have made.* There is no comparison on ease of setup, ease of management, stability.* ADAM wins hands down as much as I hate to say it, its true.
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08-25-2008, 04:30 AM
"Merle Reine"
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Ease of use, speed, dependency.* I love mysql, php, apache, linux but LDAP is just way too confusing and need to many hands on to manage.* AD just works, was a breeze to setup (i setup exchange server, ADAM in 2 days serving 6,000 users) and I had 0 previous experience with either as I am a linux guy.* It has worked flawlessly with not a single thing done to it since being setup.* I don't like the licensing fees either but it is worth the money to not have to do any management on a daily basis and I mean 0 seconds of my time or my admins in the last 3 months.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 AM, solarflow99 <solarflow99@gmail.com> wrote:
I've used them both too, and I never noticed any real advantage with AD.* In fact, FDS would do everything just like you said, and I wasnt forced into vendor lock-in to do it.* What were your main drawbacks with LDAP?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Merle Reine <merle.reine@gmail.com> wrote:
Been using Fedora Directory Server since its inception and up until recently, I would have recommended it above all others.* I am a Linux guru, windows hater and favor open source over any proprietary product.* That being said,* I recently switched to a new company and they happen to be all XP and 2003 server along with exchange.
Having had the opportunity to work now with both FDS and Active Directory,* I can tell you from first hand experience, Active Directory wins hands down.* It was easy to setup, easy to replicate, support 6,000 users currently at my office and is easily running on a dual core system while hardly using any resources.
I am no lover of Microsoft or any of its products but switching to ADAM was the best move i could have made.* There is no comparison on ease of setup, ease of management, stability.* ADAM wins hands down as much as I hate to say it, its true.
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08-25-2008, 09:24 AM
solarflow99
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in a windows only network, sure. have fun getting anything else to authenticate to it properly though.* I dont think you even need to know a lot about ldap to get it going with fds, but its still a useful thing to know if you are a linux guy, AD is also ldap.* I'd really doubt that it could ever be faster since AD also adds DNS, kerberos, DHCP, NTP all into it.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Merle Reine <merle.reine@gmail.com> wrote:
Ease of use, speed, dependency.* I love mysql, php, apache, linux but LDAP is just way too confusing and need to many hands on to manage.* AD just works, was a breeze to setup (i setup exchange server, ADAM in 2 days serving 6,000 users) and I had 0 previous experience with either as I am a linux guy.* It has worked flawlessly with not a single thing done to it since being setup.* I don't like the licensing fees either but it is worth the money to not have to do any management on a daily basis and I mean 0 seconds of my time or my admins in the last 3 months.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 AM, solarflow99 <solarflow99@gmail.com> wrote:
I've used them both too, and I never noticed any real advantage with AD.* In fact, FDS would do everything just like you said, and I wasnt forced into vendor lock-in to do it.* What were your main drawbacks with LDAP?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Merle Reine <merle.reine@gmail.com> wrote:
Been using Fedora Directory Server since its inception and up until recently, I would have recommended it above all others.* I am a Linux guru, windows hater and favor open source over any proprietary product.* That being said,* I recently switched to a new company and they happen to be all XP and 2003 server along with exchange.
Having had the opportunity to work now with both FDS and Active Directory,* I can tell you from first hand experience, Active Directory wins hands down.* It was easy to setup, easy to replicate, support 6,000 users currently at my office and is easily running on a dual core system while hardly using any resources.
I am no lover of Microsoft or any of its products but switching to ADAM was the best move i could have made.* There is no comparison on ease of setup, ease of management, stability.* ADAM wins hands down as much as I hate to say it, its true.