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Old 05-19-2008, 04:33 PM
seth vidal
 
Default changes at planet fedora

Hi all,
I’m making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
feeds for the fedora planet. We’re making it more self-service and a bit
easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:

http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html

These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
happens next week.

Let me know what problems you have, too.

thanks,
-sv



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Old 05-19-2008, 04:33 PM
seth vidal
 
Default changes at planet fedora

Hi all,
I’m making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
feeds for the fedora planet. We’re making it more self-service and a bit
easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:

http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html

These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
happens next week.

Let me know what problems you have, too.

thanks,
-sv



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Old 05-19-2008, 04:43 PM
seth vidal
 
Default changes at planet fedora

On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 08:47 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:33 AM, seth vidal <skvidal@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I'm making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
> > feeds for the fedora planet. We're making it more self-service and a bit
> > easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
> > to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
> > follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:
> >
> > http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html
> >
> > These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
> > happens next week.
> >
> > Let me know what problems you have, too.
>
> Do you plan to keep the hackergochi images available where they are at
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/heads ? or do people need to migrate
> their current faces over to their people space?

Please migrate them to your people space.

-sv


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Old 05-19-2008, 04:47 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default changes at planet fedora

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:33 AM, seth vidal <skvidal@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
> feeds for the fedora planet. We're making it more self-service and a bit
> easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
> to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
> follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:
>
> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html
>
> These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
> happens next week.
>
> Let me know what problems you have, too.

Do you plan to keep the hackergochi images available where they are at
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/heads ? or do people need to migrate
their current faces over to their people space?

-jef"what I really want to know is when is someone going to design a
Fedora theme'd Wesnoth campaign using our hackergochi for the hero
characters"spaleta

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:01 PM
Mark
 
Default changes at planet fedora

2008/5/19 seth vidal <skvidal@fedoraproject.org>:
> Hi all,
> I'm making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
> feeds for the fedora planet. We're making it more self-service and a bit
> easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
> to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
> follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:
>
> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html
>
> These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
> happens next week.
>
> Let me know what problems you have, too.
>
> thanks,
> -sv
>

To comment on the new rules you've made:

1. As a fedora contributor you have to have a Fedora Account
System account, have signed the cla and be a member of at least one
other group in FAS.

I strongly disagree on this one!! A person that writes a lot about
fedora and thus deserves to be on the planet list doesn't need to be
registered (or wants to register) at fedora so that you people can say
your community is growing (because that WILL happen when a high fedora
person gets interviewed and gets asked about the community behind it
whether you want it or not). I personally didn't register there yet
because the registration system asks things of me that i don't want to
supply or don't feel like i need to supply them thus won't register
until it either changes or when i'm up to put the time in it to get it
all done.

2. Next, you need to login to your fedorapeople.org account. Use
your ssh key you uploaded into the FAS to do this.

don't quite get this one but is releated to the FAS which i disagreed
so i disagree on this one as well..

3. You need to create a .planet file in your homedir. The content
of the file should be like this:

Interesting.. you are asking things of the user to do (besides posting
fedora stuff) so that they can be on the planet list.. i understand
why you want it but again don't agree on this one. Why do you ask of a
user to do this? if a user has a blog on some place where he doesn't
have access to upload files (like blogspot and wordpress) then the
user, which might have very good fedora articles, can't get on the
planet.. I would drop this rule if i where you and put it in the
fedora accounting system if a user needs to register there anyway..
You probably look for the .planet file anyway and save it in a
database.

Don't get me wrong! i like the planet thing and look ther quite often
but dislike the rules you've just put on them (not that i want to
submit my blog).
I would be surprised if this is gonna work! seems like you simply ask
to much of a user for them to only have there blog indexed on some
kind of a planet site. Also a person that hates fedora might get on
the planet with this automated system.

What i would propose:
Keep it the way it is to maintain quality. perhaps do a few things
automatic but not everything! if it's to much for you to handle then
post a request for some other people that can help with it. I'm sure
there will be a few. I would (if i don't have to register at the FAS).

Just think about it.

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:24 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default changes at planet fedora

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally didn't register there yet
> because the registration system asks things of me that i don't want to
> supply or don't feel like i need to supply them thus won't register
> until it either changes or when i'm up to put the time in it to get it
> all done.

What exactly in the new click-through CLA process, which is required
do you find over burdensome? Not all the personal profile information
is required.

The click-through CLA is a much lower bar than the previous CLA process.
-jef

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:31 PM
Josh Boyer
 
Default changes at planet fedora

On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:01:03 +0200
Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also a person that hates fedora might get on
> the planet with this automated system.

Why would that be a problem?

josh

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:02 PM
Mark
 
Default changes at planet fedora

2008/5/20 Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:01:03 +0200
> Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also a person that hates fedora might get on
>> the planet with this automated system.
>
> Why would that be a problem?
>
> josh
>

Well.. being critical about fedora is fine but some haters take all
opportunity to promote the os that they do like or believe in so that
might be a problem. And i can imagine that the fedora planet doesn't
want to much negative fedora publicity on it's own planet about it's
own os.

2008/5/20 Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I personally didn't register there yet
>> because the registration system asks things of me that i don't want to
>> supply or don't feel like i need to supply them thus won't register
>> until it either changes or when i'm up to put the time in it to get it
>> all done.
>
> What exactly in the new click-through CLA process, which is required
> do you find over burdensome? Not all the personal profile information
> is required.
>
> The click-through CLA is a much lower bar than the previous CLA process.
> -jef

i didn't look at it in the last few months. But making a key (which i
never use and will lose) which was required last time i checked is one
of the things that i don't like to supply simply because i don't
want/need it (not for the moment). Also the requirement to fill in my
last name bothers me. I like to be registered there with just my
nickname and nothing more. And if i need to fill it in than certainly
not __public__! I must have the ability to just use a name without
supplying a last name. Without that i'm not gonna register.

Just:
Username
Firstname
Lastname (optional)
Password
Email
And done!

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:05 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
 
Default changes at planet fedora

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:
> i didn't look at it in the last few months. But making a key (which i
> never use and will lose) which was required last time i checked is one
> of the things that i don't like to supply simply because i don't
> want/need it (not for the moment).

key is not required for click through cla. Perhaps you should look at
what is required for the cla again. And make sure you click on the
information icons for each field and see which ones are required and
which are options.. and the explanation as to why the required fields
are in fact required.

-jef

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:19 PM
Josh Boyer
 
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 23:02:01 +0200
Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/5/20 Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:01:03 +0200
> > Mark <markg85@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Also a person that hates fedora might get on
> >> the planet with this automated system.
> >
> > Why would that be a problem?
> >
> > josh
> >
>
> Well.. being critical about fedora is fine but some haters take all
> opportunity to promote the os that they do like or believe in so that
> might be a problem. And i can imagine that the fedora planet doesn't
> want to much negative fedora publicity on it's own planet about it's
> own os.

I wouldn't have a problem with comparisons against other distros on
fedora planet. Even if Fedora comes out lesser in those comparisons.
As for blatant "Fedora SUCKS" types of posts, usually those get lots of
comments from other bloggers either agreeing with that specific item,
or pointing out how inaccurate it is.

And given that fedoraplanet is multi-lingual, we might already have
posts like that today that you or I can't read. I'm not concerned
about this at all.

josh

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