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Old 11-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Janina Sajka
 
Default Inaccessible Post-GDM But Pre-Desktop Dialogs

Janina Sajka writes:
> Jeremy Katz writes:
> > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:21 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > There is at least one potential dialog that breaks accessibility after a
> > > user logs in, but before Orca (or Gok) loads. I became aware of this one
> > > demonstrating Orca in Italian to a CompSci professor at a recont F/OSS
> > > symposium in Florence.
> > >
> > > The dialog we came across advises of available updates. It does not talk
> > > (in my case). So, it's an accessibility show-stopper.
> > >
> > > Generically speaking, all such potential pop-ups need to be vetted for
> > > accessibility. What about the one that says: "you're not connected to
> > > the Internet," for instance?
> >
> > They're actually from the same source. The problem here is that things
> > in the notification area (puplet, nm-applet, etc) are all started by
> > gnome-session as is the panel, orca, etc. If one of the notification
> > area applets wants to show a notification bubble, they just do a
> > libnotify call. But there's no way to ensure that the panel is up (and
> > thus that their icon is actually visible) much less if other things like
> > a11y technologies are running.
> >
> > We really need a way to serialize some of this. Unfortunately, that'll
> > end up coming at the cost of a (slightly) slower login time
> >
> So, it sounds like the proper fix is upstream in Gnome development? But,
> what's the short term work around for the Fedora 8 user? Right now it's a
> crap shoot whether one can access the desktop with Orca, or not.
> Clearly, it may often be possible to go run a 'yum update,' but it won't
> always be possible to do that.
>
Answering my own question--perhaps--

Is the correct workaround disabling Update Notification under
System/Preferences/Sessions?

Janina

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