very common kernel modules slow down the boot process
Bill Nottingham wrote:
correct… seems to be started by NM / dbus according to the bootchart…
This *should* be in the background and not actually be delaying the boot.
Bill
The point is: Why is it started anyway? I have *no* wireless! No need to eat disk/CPU resources (which *is*
delaying the boot).
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04-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Harald Hoyer
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Bill Nottingham wrote:
correct… seems to be started by NM / dbus according to the bootchart…
This *should* be in the background and not actually be delaying the boot.
Bill
The point is: Why is it started anyway? I have *no* wireless! No need to eat disk/CPU resources (which *is*
delaying the boot).
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04-02-2008, 08:09 PM
"Jeffrey Ollie"
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com> wrote:
> Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >
> > > correct… seems to be started by NM / dbus according to the bootchart…
> > >
> >
> > This *should* be in the background and not actually be delaying the boot.
>
> The point is: Why is it started anyway? I have *no* wireless! No need to
> eat disk/CPU resources (which *is* delaying the boot).
Authentication isn't just for wireless anymore... Many network
switches can be configured to require 802.1x authentication from a
system before allowing access to the network. I'll be looking into
enabling 802.1x authentication here at work this summer. This is a
case of having things "just work" - having the world's fastest boot
time shouldn't be the ultimate goal here.
Jeff
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04-02-2008, 08:24 PM
Harald Hoyer
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Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com> wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
correct… seems to be started by NM / dbus according to the bootchart…
This *should* be in the background and not actually be delaying the boot.
The point is: Why is it started anyway? I have *no* wireless! No need to
eat disk/CPU resources (which *is* delaying the boot).
Authentication isn't just for wireless anymore... Many network
switches can be configured to require 802.1x authentication from a
system before allowing access to the network. I'll be looking into
enabling 802.1x authentication here at work this summer. This is a
case of having things "just work" - having the world's fastest boot
time shouldn't be the ultimate goal here.
Jeff
where is the option to turn this authentication daemon off?
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04-02-2008, 08:27 PM
"Jeff Spaleta"
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff@ocjtech.us> wrote:
This is a case of having things "just work" - having the world's fastest boot
time shouldn't be the ultimate goal here.
the hell you say! My LFS install sitting on my 8 meg flash card boots wicked fast and 'just works'.
If by 'just works' you mean brings me to a single user mode shell prompt with just enough support to mount a ro ext2 filesystem and startup my eth0 hardware with no other network hardware support, with only just enough commands available to create iptable rules on the cmdline with no editor on the system.
-jef"using the word 'just' as is used in 'just in time' or 'just failed the test'"spaleta
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04-02-2008, 08:38 PM
"Jeffrey Ollie"
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> where is the option to turn this authentication daemon off?
yum remove wpa_supplicant
Jeff
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04-02-2008, 08:50 PM
Harald Hoyer
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Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com> wrote:
where is the option to turn this authentication daemon off?
yum remove wpa_supplicant
Jeff
this is not an "option".. this is the last resort.
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04-03-2008, 12:11 AM
Matthew Saltzman
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On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 20:07 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:07:01 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote
>
> > > Wouldn't you want bugs to be fixed instead of having to workaround
> > > them?
> >
> > Sure.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=254214
>
> Sorry, but that's a different bug. My X60 suspends just fine, it just does
> not go into C3 (for a significant time) while USB is active.
>
Ah, OK. Still a bug with USB drivers, though.
What's your bug #?
>
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04-03-2008, 01:36 AM
Dan Williams
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On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 15:09 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > >
> > > > correct… seems to be started by NM / dbus according to the bootchart…
> > > >
> > >
> > > This *should* be in the background and not actually be delaying the boot.
> >
> > The point is: Why is it started anyway? I have *no* wireless! No need to
> > eat disk/CPU resources (which *is* delaying the boot).
>
> Authentication isn't just for wireless anymore... Many network
> switches can be configured to require 802.1x authentication from a
> system before allowing access to the network. I'll be looking into
> enabling 802.1x authentication here at work this summer. This is a
> case of having things "just work" - having the world's fastest boot
> time shouldn't be the ultimate goal here.
NM has support for wired 802.1x authentication via wpa_supplicant.
While there isn't UI for it quite yet, we'll be adding that UI in over
the next week or so. If the right things are set in GConf it'll work.
Now getting this working for system connections is slightly more work,
because we're blocking on adding the necessary keys to ifcfg files. I
simply need to sit down and work through what needs to get added to
ifcfg files, and then NM will grow system WPA and wired 802.1x
connections quite easily.
Dan
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