Mark wrote:


Also please keep on the subject. Timings are very interesting (so let
them come ^_^)! but CentOS doesn't have anything to do with this so
don't start on that.


My only reason for mentioning more stable distributions was to point out
that what happens in fedora doesn't stay in fedora - it affects a lot of
people for a long time.


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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:

My only reason for mentioning more stable distributions was to point out that what happens in fedora doesn't stay in fedora - it affects a lot of people for a long time.

You continue to miss the point.* What you meant to say was...

What happens in Yum upstream development doesn't just stay in Yum upstream development, it affects a lot of people for a long time. Fedora is just a front line consumer of what yum upstream is doing..but Fedora is not yum upstream. Just as Fedora is a front line consumer of something larger like gnome. ** In a previous post, you were asked to move your issues with yum development to yum's upstream communication channels.


-jef"How do we draw a brighter line between Fedora as a downstream consumer of cross-distribution projects?* How do we better educate people concerning when its appropriate to drive discussion upstream versus encouraging Fedora specific discussion on the matter?* I think I need a longer, sharper* eye-poking stick."spaleta

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Jeff Spaleta wrote:

Fedora is just a front line consumer of what yum upstream is doing..but Fedora
is not yum upstream. Just as Fedora is a front line consumer of
something larger like gnome.


Are you saying that Fedora will publish any kind of cruft an upstream
developer cranks out? I was trying to give you guys some credit...


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On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:57 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>
> > Fedora is just a front line consumer of what yum upstream is doing..but Fedora
> > is not yum upstream. Just as Fedora is a front line consumer of
> > something larger like gnome.
>
> Are you saying that Fedora will publish any kind of cruft an upstream
> developer cranks out? I was trying to give you guys some credit...

Wow, insulting multiple groups of people all at the same time ... this
is an achievement ...

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Simo Sorce wrote:

On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:57 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

Fedora is just a front line consumer of what yum upstream is doing..but Fedora
is not yum upstream. Just as Fedora is a front line consumer of
something larger like gnome.
Are you saying that Fedora will publish any kind of cruft an upstream
developer cranks out? I was trying to give you guys some credit...


Wow, insulting multiple groups of people all at the same time ... this
is an achievement ...


I really didn't mean it as an insult. It's just realistic to observe
that an occasional bug or even a bad idea slips into the upstream code
repositories. But it only bothers a lot of people when it is accepted
into a mainstream distribution without being fixed. I'm in awe of your
power here and just asking that it be used responsibly.


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