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Old 06-13-2011, 07:14 AM
Reindl Harald
 
Default WTF - SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

Am 13.06.2011 05:58, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>> and even on a new setup this should be a decision of the user
>> at the very beginning what init-system he wants to us
>
> No, the choice of this kind of core under-the-hood system components should
> be a decision of the distribution.

thats freedom?

> To the user, it should be only an implementation detail. To the software on the
> distribution, it should matter that they can rely on the core system components
> being what they are and not have a user replace something as central as the init system.

and usually HE CAN NOT with the most new technologies introduced in Fedora
the first two releases (PulseAudio, KDE 4.0...)

> I think it makes no sense whatsoever to even OFFER upstart in F15+ as we are
> doing. I don't see any valid reason why you'd use it over systemd.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709681

because your fukcing holy cow is not well tested and stable enough
and that it was planned for Fedora 14 and reverted at the last moment
and now a version later /run was introduced and discussed
not long ago shows that there are some peopole in the fedora community
with the only interest getting their stuff to as many users as possible
without a real interest if they can live with it

> You complain about some bugs in systemd, those should be reported as bugs
> and fixed.

AND THAT IIS WHY YOZ SHOULD INSTALL SYSTEMD ONLY FOR NEW INSTALLATIONS TO GET
A USERBASE FOR BUGREPORTS AND LAVE SINCE YEARS LUCKY USERS FUCK IN PEACE

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