Beginning of today "package-cleanup --orphans" reports
thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14.i686 as orphan in F14.
"yum clean all; yum list thunderbird" reports thunderbird-3.1.9-2.fc14
as newest thunderbird package in the repositories. However, at one point
in time thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14.i686 must have been available in the
repos, too (I don't have updates-testing enabled.).
which contains thunderbird 3.1.9-2 (and thunderbird-lightning) and which
was pushed to stable on 2011-04-30 23:21:39.
So the 2nd update has superseded the first update to thunderbird 3.1.10.
For all who have updated to thunderbird 3.1.10 during the small time
window when it was available in the mirrors, the thunderbird package is
now an "orphan" on their systems.
Please can the maintainers of thunderbird push thunderbird 3.1.10 again?
Thanks!
Best regards,
Christian
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05-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Michael Schwendt
Thunderbird updates mixed up in F14
On Sun, 01 May 2011 15:53:10 +0200, CK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Beginning of today "package-cleanup --orphans" reports
> thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14.i686 as orphan in F14.
>
> "yum clean all; yum list thunderbird" reports thunderbird-3.1.9-2.fc14
> as newest thunderbird package in the repositories. However, at one point
> in time thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14.i686 must have been available in the
> repos, too (I don't have updates-testing enabled.).
>
> It looks like that the following happened:
>
>
> There were two updates in bodhi:
>
> 1.
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-3.6.17-1.fc14,mozvoikko-1.0-21.fc14.1,gnome-web-photo-0.9-20.fc14.1,perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc14.26,gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-30.fc14.1,galeon-2.0.7-40.fc14.1,thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14,xulrunner-1.9.2.17-2.fc14
>
> which contains thunderbird 3.1.10-1 and which was pushed to stable on
> 2011-04-29 22:19:33.
>
> 2.
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thunderbird-3.1.9-2.fc14,thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.41.b3pre.fc14
>
> which contains thunderbird 3.1.9-2 (and thunderbird-lightning) and which
> was pushed to stable on 2011-04-30 23:21:39.
>
>
> So the 2nd update has superseded the first update to thunderbird 3.1.10.
>
> For all who have updated to thunderbird 3.1.10 during the small time
> window when it was available in the mirrors, the thunderbird package is
> now an "orphan" on their systems.
>
>
> Please can the maintainers of thunderbird push thunderbird 3.1.10 again?
Rather find and fix the bug that is the cause of this. There have been
a few updates like that recently, again.
The 3.1.10-1.fc14 package is tagged dist-f14-updates already:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241265
So, during the compose of the updates repo it should be pulled in.
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05-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Michael Schwendt
Thunderbird updates mixed up in F14
On Sun, 1 May 2011 16:31:29 +0200, me wrote:
> > Please can the maintainers of thunderbird push thunderbird 3.1.10 again?
>
> Rather find and fix the bug that is the cause of this. There have been
> a few updates like that recently, again.
>
> The 3.1.10-1.fc14 package is tagged dist-f14-updates already:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241265
>
> So, during the compose of the updates repo it should be pulled in.
$ koji list-tag-history --tag=dist-f14-updates --package=thunderbird|tail -2
Fri Apr 29 20:53:33 2011: thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14 tagged into dist-f14-updates by bodhi [still active]
Sat Apr 30 21:35:18 2011: thunderbird-3.1.9-2.fc14 tagged into dist-f14-updates by bodhi [still active]
The bug here is that bodhi apparently is permitted to "downgrade" a package
by tagging a lower version after a higher version.
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05-01-2011, 08:38 PM
Kevin Kofler
Thunderbird updates mixed up in F14
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Rather find and fix the bug that is the cause of this. There have been
> a few updates like that recently, again.
>
> The 3.1.10-1.fc14 package is tagged dist-f14-updates already:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241265
>
> So, during the compose of the updates repo it should be pulled in.
The problem there is Koji's broken idea of "newest". For Koji, the "newest"
package is the latest one which was tagged, not the highest EVR. (In fact,
Koji doesn't process Epoch at all, so it can't even compare EVRs.)
Unfortunately, the Koji developers refuse to acknowledge that this is even a
bug, and have no plans to fix it ever. Fixing it would mean 1. telling Koji
about Epoch and 2. using EVR comparisons instead of tagging dates to decide
on the latest version.
To fix this particular instance of the problem, rel-eng needs to untag the
obsolete 3.1.9 build so the 3.1.10 one becomes the "newest" also for Koji.
Kevin Kofler
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05-02-2011, 01:52 PM
Jon Ciesla
Thunderbird updates mixed up in F14
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
>> Rather find and fix the bug that is the cause of this. There have been
>> a few updates like that recently, again.
>>
>> The 3.1.10-1.fc14 package is tagged dist-f14-updates already:
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241265
>>
>> So, during the compose of the updates repo it should be pulled in.
>>
>
> The problem there is Koji's broken idea of "newest". For Koji, the "newest"
> package is the latest one which was tagged, not the highest EVR. (In fact,
> Koji doesn't process Epoch at all, so it can't even compare EVRs.)
> Unfortunately, the Koji developers refuse to acknowledge that this is even a
> bug, and have no plans to fix it ever. Fixing it would mean 1. telling Koji
> about Epoch and 2. using EVR comparisons instead of tagging dates to decide
> on the latest version.
>
> To fix this particular instance of the problem, rel-eng needs to untag the
> obsolete 3.1.9 build so the 3.1.10 one becomes the "newest" also for Koji.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
I've filed multiple bugs in rel-engs Trac over the last few years, and
they've always fixed the tagging, but it would be great to have this be
fixed in a more long term way.
-J
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05-03-2011, 08:36 PM
Christian Krause
Thunderbird updates mixed up in F14
On 05/01/2011 10:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> Rather find and fix the bug that is the cause of this. There have been
>> a few updates like that recently, again.
>>
>> The 3.1.10-1.fc14 package is tagged dist-f14-updates already:
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241265
>>
>> So, during the compose of the updates repo it should be pulled in.
>
> The problem there is Koji's broken idea of "newest". For Koji, the "newest"
> package is the latest one which was tagged, not the highest EVR. (In fact,
> Koji doesn't process Epoch at all, so it can't even compare EVRs.)
> Unfortunately, the Koji developers refuse to acknowledge that this is even a
> bug, and have no plans to fix it ever. Fixing it would mean 1. telling Koji
> about Epoch and 2. using EVR comparisons instead of tagging dates to decide
> on the latest version.
What do you suggest? Should we just create a rel-eng ticket for fixing
koji with respect to the sorting algorithm?
> To fix this particular instance of the problem, rel-eng needs to untag the
> obsolete 3.1.9 build so the 3.1.10 one becomes the "newest" also for Koji.
Since the update to 3.1.10 is marked as a security update I suggest that
for now we should just use the approach of untagging 3.1.9. I have
created: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4690
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Christian
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