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Old 09-25-2010, 06:26 PM
Tom London
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 09:31 -0700, Tom London wrote:
>> 1. Nautilus no longer displays the desktop; believe I got some
>> indication that this was part of the move to a newer desktop ....
>
> Since you aren't actually running the newer desktop (GNOME Shell is
> temporarily not working in Rawhide, we'll get it fixed this week, and
> the file management isn't fully there yet in any case), you can showing
> the desktop back on with:
>
> *gconftool -s -t bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop true
>
> Of course, that once you've set that key you'll no longer get the
> default experience.
>
> (See:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-September/msg00033.html
>
> for some discussion of the desktop situation)
>
>> 2. Nautilus no longer 'auto mounts' removable drives (e.g., thumb
>> drives, hard drives, etc.). *However, the device does appear in
>> 'Places', and it mounts if you select it there.
>
> This is a fairly long-standing bug related to turning off "show_desktop"
> - the automounting is part of the Nautilus process, and when not showing
> the desktop, Nautilus just exits when there are no windows.
>
> See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585545
>
> - Owen
>

Thanks for the update.... Think I'll wait for the newer gnome-shell.

I sort of got hooked on the compiz eye-candy. Any idea if that (e.g.,
wobbly windows, rotating cube, ...) will be part of the "new
gnome-shell experience"?

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Old 09-25-2010, 06:55 PM
Owen Taylor
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:04 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:

> > (nautilus:11408): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
> > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> There also seem to be problems with nautilus from GTK+ ABI changes - I
> see various warnings along the lines of:
>
> (nautilus:27082): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type
> `EvPropertiesView' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkVBox' class
> size
>
> These indicate a definite need for rebuild, so I'll kick one off now,
> and maybe things will be better after that finishes. It's certainly not
> worth worrying about anything related to Nautilus until it's rebuild.

Turned out to be a bit of a red-herring.... I was actually testing with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH including a fresh-from-git copy of GTK+.

Another potential problem is modules in:

/usr/lib64/nautilus/extensions-2.0/

That are linking against gtk2 - that will result in gtk2 and gtk3 in the
same process, which will do bad things. There are certainly some
problems with that in the current Rawhide package set but not sure if
that's causing the problem you are seeing or not. Nautilus seem to work
fairly well for me with the rebuild and the right LD_LIBRARY_PATH and
most of the offending modules removed.

(We'll work on rebuilds and checks in Nautilus to deal with the
extensions linking against gtk2)

- Owen


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Old 09-26-2010, 03:21 AM
darrell pfeifer
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:55, Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> wrote:

On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:04 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:



> > (nautilus:11408): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion

> > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)

>

> There also seem to be problems with nautilus from GTK+ ABI changes - I

> see various warnings along the lines of:

>

> (nautilus:27082): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type

> `EvPropertiesView' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkVBox' class

> size

>

> These indicate a definite need for rebuild, so I'll kick one off now,

> and maybe things will be better after that finishes. It's certainly not

> worth worrying about anything related to Nautilus until it's rebuild.



The newer version still dies. It seemed to work for a while but segfaults again. Also, sftp doesn't work any more.
Interestingly enough, it doesn't segfault under KDE.*

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Old 09-26-2010, 04:30 PM
Tom London
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM, darrell pfeifer <darrellpf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:55, Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:04 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
>>
>> > > (nautilus:11408): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
>> > > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>> > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>> >
>> > There also seem to be problems with nautilus from GTK+ ABI changes - I
>> > see various warnings along the lines of:
>> >
>> > (nautilus:27082): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type
>> > `EvPropertiesView' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkVBox' class
>> > size
>> >
>> > These indicate a definite need for rebuild, so I'll kick one off now,
>> > and maybe things will be better after that finishes. It's certainly not
>> > worth worrying about anything related to Nautilus until it's rebuild.
>>
>
> The newer version still dies. It seemed to work for a while but segfaults
> again. Also, sftp doesn't work any more.
> Interestingly enough, it doesn't segfault under KDE.
> darrell
> --

Does this sound like your segfaults:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636543

I'm guessing that is some change in the gtk3 interface...

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Old 09-26-2010, 04:45 PM
darrell pfeifer
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 09:30, Tom London <selinux@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM, darrell pfeifer <darrellpf@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:55, Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> wrote:

>>

>> On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:04 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:

>>

>> > > (nautilus:11408): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion

>> > > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

>> > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)

>> >

>> > There also seem to be problems with nautilus from GTK+ ABI changes - I

>> > see various warnings along the lines of:

>> >

>> > (nautilus:27082): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type

>> > `EvPropertiesView' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkVBox' class

>> > size

>> >

>> > These indicate a definite need for rebuild, so I'll kick one off now,

>> > and maybe things will be better after that finishes. It's certainly not

>> > worth worrying about anything related to Nautilus until it's rebuild.

>>

>

> The newer version still dies. It seemed to work for a while but segfaults

> again. Also, sftp doesn't work any more.

> Interestingly enough, it doesn't segfault under KDE.

> darrell

> --



Does this sound like your segfaults:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636543



I'm guessing that is some change in the gtk3 interface...


I haven't run a stack trace on mine, so I can't be sure.
Your guess might be accurate though. I also notice that chrome has been segfaulting with annoying frequency which is strange because it has been very stable for me.

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Old 09-27-2010, 07:26 PM
Tom London
 
Default Nautilus still no go in rawhide

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:45 AM, darrell pfeifer <darrellpf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 09:30, Tom London <selinux@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM, darrell pfeifer <darrellpf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:55, Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:04 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > (nautilus:11408): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
>> >> > > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>> >> > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>> >> >
>> >> > There also seem to be problems with nautilus from GTK+ ABI changes -
>> >> > I
>> >> > see various warnings along the lines of:
>> >> >
>> >> > (nautilus:27082): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for
>> >> > type
>> >> > `EvPropertiesView' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkVBox' class
>> >> > size
>> >> >
>> >> > These indicate a definite need for rebuild, so I'll kick one off now,
>> >> > and maybe things will be better after that finishes. It's certainly
>> >> > not
>> >> > worth worrying about anything related to Nautilus until it's rebuild.
>> >>
>> >
>> > The newer version still dies. It seemed to work for a while but
>> > segfaults
>> > again. Also, sftp doesn't work any more.
>> > Interestingly enough, it doesn't segfault under KDE.
>> > darrell
>> > --
>>
>> Does this sound like your segfaults:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636543
>>
>> I'm guessing that is some change in the gtk3 interface...
>>
>
> I haven't run a stack trace on mine, so I can't be sure.
> Your guess might be accurate though. I also notice that chrome has been
> segfaulting with annoying frequency which is strange because it has been
> very stable for me.
> darrell
>
> --

Interesting.....

I just locally patched gtk3 (as described here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636543), and now
'automounting' appears to be working as usual: the nice nautilus
window with the device's root directory opens as expected.

I'm running:
nautilus-2.90.1-5.gitf3bbee7.fc15.x86_64
gtk3-2.90.7-2.local.fc15.x86_64 <--- this is the 'patched' gtk3.

I don't know if this is the 'right' patch, but this appears to
indicate (at least part of) a problem.

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