Hi,

I would like to push tcl/tk 8.5.8 update to F13 testing (update from tcl/tk 8.5.7).

The purpose of this update is to resolve the: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560516
and probably more similar issues.

>From the repoquery only the tk seems to have exact version dependency on tcl. Also from my test with several packages requiring libtcl/libtk - they worked without rebuild. I don't like to break anything, thus please let me know if you see any problem with such update

regards

Jaroslav
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Jaroslav Skarvada wrote:
>> From the repoquery only the tk seems to have exact version dependency on tcl. Also from my test with several packages requiring libtcl/libtk - they worked without rebuild. I don't like to break anything, thus please let me know if you see any problem with such update

Are you sure?

Email from Kevin Fenzi[1]:
> Also, pidgin needed to be added to it. It failed rebuild due to a new
> tcl in the buildroot. This tcl build has been untagged now, so it's
> been rebuilt and should be added to the update soon.

[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-June/137983.html
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AFAIK this shouldn't been related, please see:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3815

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From: "Michael Cronenworth" <mike@cchtml.com>
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Subject: Re: tcl/tk 8.5.8 update for F13?

Jaroslav Skarvada wrote:
>> From the repoquery only the tk seems to have exact version dependency on tcl. Also from my test with several packages requiring libtcl/libtk - they worked without rebuild. I don't like to break anything, thus please let me know if you see any problem with such update

Are you sure?

Email from Kevin Fenzi[1]:
> Also, pidgin needed to be added to it. It failed rebuild due to a new
> tcl in the buildroot. This tcl build has been untagged now, so it's
> been rebuilt and should be added to the update soon.

[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-June/137983.html
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I've added further comments to the releng thread:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3815


It looks to me like the core problem is the tcl Provides line that defines the tcl(abi) to be the exact same as the full version.* Given that the name of the lib is libtcl8.5, the ABI designator probably should include the the patch level (.7 or .8).


That would solve the death-grip between tcl and dependent packages.* But that's possibly something that needs to be done in rawhide (and tracked with a bug).

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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kyle VanderBeek <kylev@kylev.com> wrote:
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3815
>
> It looks to me like the core problem is the tcl Provides line that defines the tcl(abi) to be the exact same as the full version.* Given that the name of the lib is libtcl8.5, the ABI designator probably should include the the patch level (.7 or .8).

Wow, I think I got that totally wrong. The ABI designator is correct,
but the Requires on tk is likely too restrictive:

Requires: tcl = %{epoch}:%{version}

That's what was causing my build to break. With the tcl override in
place and tk not built, that will happen every time. It'd be nice if
these were a little less tightly coupled.

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