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Old 06-28-2010, 07:22 AM
Pierre-Yves
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

Dear all,

Does someone know how to contact Cheese ?
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/cheese

I have tried to join him by the bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817


He has two packages in updates-testing:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584966
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/R-bitops

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584974
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/R-combinat

I am willing to take over these two packages.



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Old 07-05-2010, 11:23 AM
Pierre-Yves
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 09:22 +0200, Pierre-Yves wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Does someone know how to contact Cheese ?
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/cheese
>
> I have tried to join him by the bugzilla:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817
>
>
> He has two packages in updates-testing:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584966
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/R-bitops
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584974
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/R-combinat
>
> I am willing to take over these two packages.
I am still interested by these packages and nobody has reacted for a
week on how to contact Cheese.

What would be the next step ? A ticket of the Trac of Fesco ?

Thanks,
Pierre
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:30 AM
Mark Chappell
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers

It takes three weeks which can be frustrating, the initial "can we
push this update to testing" might count as the initial ticket
creation, dropping it down to 2 weeks from here...


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Old 07-05-2010, 11:33 AM
Pierre-Yves
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 12:30 +0100, Mark Chappell wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
>
> It takes three weeks which can be frustrating, the initial "can we
> push this update to testing" might count as the initial ticket
> creation, dropping it down to 2 weeks from here...

If we include the absence of reaction in this review:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817
(last comment on Mai 08th) then we are over these 3 weeks.


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Old 07-05-2010, 11:42 AM
Patrice Dumas
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 12:30:19PM +0100, Mark Chappell wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
>
> It takes three weeks which can be frustrating, the initial "can we
> push this update to testing" might count as the initial ticket
> creation, dropping it down to 2 weeks from here...

No, it might not, at least that's not my reading of the policy. If you want
to have the policy changed, you should submit to FESCo a revision of the
policy (rewritten in good english, something like:

the days count starts from the first time the maintainer didn't answer
requests, and not the time of filling the comment starting the
non-responsive maintainer procedure.

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Old 07-05-2010, 11:45 AM
Mark Chappell
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On 5 July 2010 12:33, Pierre-Yves <pingou@pingoured.fr> wrote:
> If we include the absence of reaction in this review:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817
> (last comment on Mai 08th) then we are over these 3 weeks.

Yeah, just depends if pinging on those tickets is sufficient. In which case

"After another 7 days (now 3 weeks total), the reporter posts a formal
request to the fedora-devel list with the bug link, indicating all
reasonable efforts have been made to contact the maintainer have
failed and that they wish to take over the package."

Someone from FESCo will hopefully respond to this email thread...


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Old 07-05-2010, 11:54 AM
Till Maas
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 12:30:19PM +0100, Mark Chappell wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
>
> It takes three weeks which can be frustrating, the initial "can we
> push this update to testing" might count as the initial ticket
> creation, dropping it down to 2 weeks from here...

You can use the "fast track procedure" here, imho, because "the
maintainer has been non responsive for a long time, but the above
procedure has never been completed":
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers#Fast_ Track_procedure

Afaics there have been several tries to contact him already:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817#c4

But it would be better to collect all these contact attempts in the
FESCo ticket.

Regards
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:51 AM
josef radinger
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

sorry for being offline. had some longer trouble in real life and am now
wading through lots of mails which piled up since some weeks.

pushed that package.

what is the correct way for being unavailable?
is a vacation message ok, or would we spam our mailinglists?
as far as i remember vacation would leave mails from vacation-lists
alone, though.

josef

On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 13:33 +0200, Pierre-Yves wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 12:30 +0100, Mark Chappell wrote:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
> >
> > It takes three weeks which can be frustrating, the initial "can we
> > push this update to testing" might count as the initial ticket
> > creation, dropping it down to 2 weeks from here...
>
> If we include the absence of reaction in this review:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585817
> (last comment on Mai 08th) then we are over these 3 weeks.
>
>
> Pierre


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Old 07-06-2010, 09:02 AM
Till Maas
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:51:37AM +0200, josef radinger wrote:
> sorry for being offline. had some longer trouble in real life and am now
> wading through lots of mails which piled up since some weeks.

Welcome back.

> what is the correct way for being unavailable?
> is a vacation message ok, or would we spam our mailinglists?
> as far as i remember vacation would leave mails from vacation-lists
> alone, though.

If you are unavailable for a long time (e.g. longer than two weeks) it
is imho best to announce it on the mailing list. Also if there are
unhandled issues, it is better to ask for help here even on a shorter
vacation. Also there is a wiki page to document absence:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation

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Old 07-06-2010, 09:36 AM
Pierre-Yves
 
Default Non responsive maintainer: cheese ?

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 10:51 +0200, josef radinger wrote:
> sorry for being offline. had some longer trouble in real life and am
> now
> wading through lots of mails which piled up since some weeks.
>
Good to hear you are back :-)

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