On Sat 29 May 2010 11:10:35 pm Matthew Miller wrote:
> And this one is: packages should not print out messages complaining about
> the state of other packages in Fedora. That's not the right process for
> solving those issues. If redhat-lsb is broken, there's a procedure for
> dealing with that, and it isn't "give confusing warnings to the end
> users!"

+1

Airing out our dirty laundry for our users to see is not something that we
should allow or promote. I'm all for reporting errors, but b*tching to
users? No. I'm going to file a bug on this if someone else has not.

It's pretty non-excellent of this package's maintainer, but judging by his
previous actions I am not surprised. He has shown in the past that he has no
qualms with breaking the "be excellent to eachother" rule.

Ryan

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On Mon 31 May 2010 1:55:26 pm Paul Wouters wrote:
> since that's the preference
> of the maintainer, which violates fedora packagaging policies

Then a provenpackager should fix it regardless of whether the maintainer "is
too busy to fix it." and even then, they shouldn't be maintaining packages
they are too busy to fix! That's just as bad as blatently refusing to fix
this issue.

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Chen Lei wrote:
> The maintainer refuse some others to co-maintain tor package or help
> him to solve this issue. It's a bit complicated to fix this, fedora
> policy seems don't permit provenpackagers to commit a package if the
> maintainer are very unwilling to do so. It should be decided by fesco
> in which condition that a provenpackager can commit a package
> regardless the unwillingness of the package owner.

FYI, FESCo decided on this particular issue that a provenpackager can fix
tor to comply with our initscripts guidelines for released Fedoras. (As far
as I know, the maintainer already fixed the Rawhide package.)

Kevin Kofler

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On Tue 1 June 2010 8:48:02 am Paul Wouters wrote:
> I'm getting seriously tired of this tor package discussion every six
> months. Seriously, just rip out the childish %post crap, and remove
> all the non-fedora initscript sub package nonsense. This is not the
> Enrico Project.

Halfway there, if you're up for testing:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598213#c3

Ryan

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