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Old 03-09-2010, 03:41 PM
Jaroslav Reznik
 
Default KDE-SIG meeting report (10/2010)

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 10/2010

Time: 2010-03-09 14:00 UTC

Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-09

Meeting minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-09/kde-
sig.2010-03-09-13.59.html

Meeting log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-09/kde-
sig.2010-03-09-13.59.log.html
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= Participants =

* JaroslavReznik
* KevinKofler
* LukasTinkl
* RexDieter
* StevenParrish
* ThanNgo
* ThomasJanssen

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= Agenda =

* topics to discuss:
o kde-4.4.1 update status
o roadmap/timeline to removing hal dependencies from kde? In particular, mjg59
is suggesting removing storage support in hal to save huge amounts of power...
o default cursor theme [1]

= Summary =

kde-4.4.1 status
* we will push 4.4.1 stable soon for f13, f11/f12 decision postponed
until next meeting
* we will queue kde-settings update to enable nepomuk for stable (fast
track)

roadmap/timeline to removing hal dependencies from kde?
* udisk is not suitable replacement for hal
* upstream is working on new solid for 4.5/4.6
* ltinkl to document a list of udisk missing features, that block our
removal of hal dependencies from kde/solid
* someone should join hal people to watch changes, that could affect KDE
packages

default cursor theme
* we agreed on change cursor theme to dmz as Gnome did
* should be set directly in kde-settings

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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-16

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= Links =
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571039
[2] http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themes.php?skin=7

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Old 03-09-2010, 03:50 PM
Matthew Garrett
 
Default KDE-SIG meeting report (10/2010)

On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:41:15PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

> roadmap/timeline to removing hal dependencies from kde?
> * udisk is not suitable replacement for hal
> * upstream is working on new solid for 4.5/4.6
> * ltinkl to document a list of udisk missing features, that block our
> removal of hal dependencies from kde/solid
> * someone should join hal people to watch changes, that could affect KDE
> packages

Contrary to the assertion in the meeting, udisks has not removed polling
support.

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Old 03-09-2010, 05:30 PM
Kevin Kofler
 
Default KDE-SIG meeting report (10/2010)

Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Contrary to the assertion in the meeting, udisks has not removed polling
> support.

Sorry, but that's the impression we got from this mail:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2010-January/000691.html

And wasn't saving power by not doing polling one of the reasons you want to
do away with HAL in the first place?

But it may be just us being confused, so please enlighten us!

Kevin Kofler

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Old 03-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Matthew Garrett
 
Default KDE-SIG meeting report (10/2010)

On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:30:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Contrary to the assertion in the meeting, udisks has not removed polling
> > support.
>
> Sorry, but that's the impression we got from this mail:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2010-January/000691.html

The old polling code tried to do a number of things itself. The new
polling code simply tries to open the device, which causes the kernel to
generate events itself.

> And wasn't saving power by not doing polling one of the reasons you want to
> do away with HAL in the first place?

hal is started at system boot, whereas udisks is started on demand. If
nothing's using its functionality then there won't be any polling, so
getting rid of hal-storage-addon reduces power consumption.

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