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Old 02-09-2010, 02:20 AM
Adam Williamson
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 22:26 +0100, Karel Klic wrote:

> So I'd like to close over 600 bugs in Bugzilla using scripts. Is there
> some Fedora policy regulating this?

It would be best to contact the maintainer of RH Bugzilla, Dave
Lawrence; he'll be able to advise you how to proceed.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:42 AM
Jiri Moskovcak
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On 02/09/2010 04:17 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:16 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
>
>> because I guess they would just sit there until bugzapping period.
>

> or they get killed due to the release for
> which they were filed going EOL.

That's what I meant

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Old 02-09-2010, 05:09 PM
Adam Williamson
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 09:42 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 02/09/2010 04:17 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:16 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> >
> >> because I guess they would just sit there until bugzapping period.
> >
>
> > or they get killed due to the release for
> > which they were filed going EOL.
>
> That's what I meant

ahh. doh. /me feels silly
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:12 PM
Till Maas
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 04:22:27PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:

> For yum related python backtrace bugs, it worked pretty well here and
> made bug reporting a lot easier. So maybe it should only be activated
> for cases where additional debuginfo is not needed.

This time it did not catch the bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563368

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:23 AM
Jiri Moskovcak
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On 02/10/2010 01:12 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 04:22:27PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
>
>> For yum related python backtrace bugs, it worked pretty well here and
>> made bug reporting a lot easier. So maybe it should only be activated
>> for cases where additional debuginfo is not needed.
>
> This time it did not catch the bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563368
>
> Regards
> Till
>

I think I did catch it (if ABRT was running), but ordinary users can't
see other user's crashes (the command from this bz has to be run under
root) unless root doesn't change this behaviour in abrt's config file.

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:42 AM
Till Maas
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:23:48AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:

> I think I did catch it (if ABRT was running), but ordinary users can't
> see other user's crashes (the command from this bz has to be run under
> root) unless root doesn't change this behaviour in abrt's config file.

What do I have to change? The manpage (man abrt.conf) or default config
(/etc/abrt/abrt.conf) does not give me a hint. Btw. can you maybe use
PolicyKit to determine whether abrt-gui and the crashed program are
run by the same person in case both happens via the local console?

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Jiri Moskovcak
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On 02/10/2010 10:42 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:23:48AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
>
>> I think I did catch it (if ABRT was running), but ordinary users can't
>> see other user's crashes (the command from this bz has to be run under
>> root) unless root doesn't change this behaviour in abrt's config file.
>
> What do I have to change? The manpage (man abrt.conf) or default config
> (/etc/abrt/abrt.conf) does not give me a hint. Btw. can you maybe use

You need to add this to the respective analyzer's configs:

InformAllUsers = yes

CCpp.conf - C/C++ xrashes analyzer
Python.conf - python analyzer
Kerneloops.conf - kerneloops (already has this enabled)

But this applies only to new crashes, the old ones will still be
invisible for ordinary users.
Working on updating the man-pages and wiki right now.

> PolicyKit to determine whether abrt-gui and the crashed program are
> run by the same person in case both happens via the local console?
>

Yes, we're changing the behavior right now.

> Regards
> Till
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:08 AM
Till Maas
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58:03AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:

> You need to add this to the respective analyzer's configs:
>
> InformAllUsers = yes
>
> CCpp.conf - C/C++ xrashes analyzer
> Python.conf - python analyzer
> Kerneloops.conf - kerneloops (already has this enabled)
>
> But this applies only to new crashes, the old ones will still be
> invisible for ordinary users.
> Working on updating the man-pages and wiki right now.

Thank you, after adding this to the Python.conf file and running
service abrtd restart
it now catches the python crash.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:48 PM
Denys Vlasenko
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 10:53 +0000, Leigh Scott wrote:
> IMO ABRT isn't that useful as a lot of the reports don't include steps
> to reproduce (I just close the bugs after a month if they don't respond
> to the "needinfo" request).

You can do it even sooner. If backtrace is unusable and there is no
description whatsoever, then *this* user is not likely to bother
to do anything to help you.

> I believe ABRT shouldn't file a bug report unless it is filled in
> properly.

Sadly, this is impossible to achieve. Sure, we can

if (description == "") yell("Fill the description dammit!");

but then user might well enter description consisting of
"I dont care" (or worse).

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Leigh Scott
 
Default ABRT unusable again

On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 15:48 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote:

> but then user might well enter description consisting of
> "I dont care" (or worse).
>
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>

That would ease my conscience when I closed the bug report :-)

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