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Old 01-28-2010, 09:43 AM
Jonathan Underwood
 
Default The road to dropping xdvik

On 28 January 2010 10:38, Richard Zidlicky <rz@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:08:25PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
>> 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski <orion@cora.nwra.com>:
>> > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. *This is one of
>> > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it.
>>
>> Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily migrated from xpdf to
>> evince over time (or at least that's my perception).
>
> not happy with evince, however okular works nicely. The speed difference to
> xdvi is substantial.
> How many people actually use the japanese support of xdvi if thats the main problem?

I suspect the japanese support is reasonably widely used. I wouldn't
say it's the main problem, just one of many problems associated with
the ageing bitrotting codebase. However, it seems we're not ready to
dump it at this time, so I'll continue maintaining the package for the
time being.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:45 AM
Jonathan Underwood
 
Default The road to dropping xdvik

On 28 January 2010 01:16, Matthew Saltzman <mjs@clemson.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 01:47 +0200, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
>> > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski <orion@cora.nwra.com>:
>> > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. *This is one of
>> > > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it.
>> >
>> > Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily migrated from xpdf to
>> > evince over time (or at least that's my perception).
>>
>> What do you mean?
>>
>> # yum -y install xpdf
>> (clip)
>> ---> Package xpdf.x86_64 1:3.02-15.fc12 set to be updated
>>
>> xpdf is still there, so actually nothing brutal has yet happened in the
>> case of xpdf. When xpdf *is* removed I'd expect cries of rage.
>
> Indeed, there are several features of xpdf that evince doesn't yet
> support. *Until it does, it turns out to be useless with emacs-auctex,
> for one thing.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451210

Well, evince may actually be useable from the auctex perspective at
this point. Also, auctex upstream has a new backend for dealing with
file viewing which will also make it easier to integrate with
xdg-open/evince/okular
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:05 PM
Matthew Saltzman
 
Default The road to dropping xdvik

On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 10:45 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> On 28 January 2010 01:16, Matthew Saltzman <mjs@clemson.edu> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 01:47 +0200, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> >> > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski <orion@cora.nwra.com>:
> >> > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. This is one of
> >> > > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it.
> >> >
> >> > Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily migrated from xpdf to
> >> > evince over time (or at least that's my perception).
> >>
> >> What do you mean?
> >>
> >> # yum -y install xpdf
> >> (clip)
> >> ---> Package xpdf.x86_64 1:3.02-15.fc12 set to be updated
> >>
> >> xpdf is still there, so actually nothing brutal has yet happened in the
> >> case of xpdf. When xpdf *is* removed I'd expect cries of rage.
> >
> > Indeed, there are several features of xpdf that evince doesn't yet
> > support. Until it does, it turns out to be useless with emacs-auctex,
> > for one thing.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451210
>
> Well, evince may actually be useable from the auctex perspective at
> this point. Also, auctex upstream has a new backend for dealing with
> file viewing which will also make it easier to integrate with
> xdg-open/evince/okular

Cool. Glad to see this getting a second look. Thanks.!

>

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