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Jason L Tibbitts III 01-07-2008 10:03 PM

Review swaps
 
>>>>> "JJ" == Jerry James <loganjerry@gmail.com> writes:

JJ> I'm interested in swapping reviews. I've currently got 3 packages
JJ> awaiting review.

One problem is that they all seem to be Java packages, and we still
neither have Java packaging guidelines nor anyone willing sufficiently
understanding of Java packaging to help write them.

If you'd be willing to help, please let me know. I'm willing to help
with packaging committee stuff (and I'll help review your packages)
but I just don't understand Java well enough to write guidelines.

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"Jerry James" 01-07-2008 10:20 PM

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On 07 Jan 2008 17:03:10 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
> One problem is that they all seem to be Java packages, and we still
> neither have Java packaging guidelines nor anyone willing sufficiently
> understanding of Java packaging to help write them.
>
> If you'd be willing to help, please let me know. I'm willing to help
> with packaging committee stuff (and I'll help review your packages)
> but I just don't understand Java well enough to write guidelines.

I don't know that I'm sufficiently experienced with Java packaging to
be helpful, but I've had a lot of experience with pedanticalness.
Surely that qualifies me for writing guidelines! :-)

Seriously, though, I'll be happy to give whatever help I can. I can
start by reviewing both the Java-related material on the wiki and
whatever guidelines I can find on jpackage.org. Has anybody compiled
any kind of list of problems encountered with Java packages?
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Jason L Tibbitts III 01-08-2008 02:51 PM

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>>>>> "JJ" == Jerry James <loganjerry@gmail.com> writes:

JJ> I don't know that I'm sufficiently experienced with Java packaging
JJ> to be helpful, but I've had a lot of experience with
JJ> pedanticalness. Surely that qualifies me for writing guidelines!
JJ> :-)

Yes, we on the packaging committee are positiviously ecstaticised by
pedanticalosity.

I guess what needs to happen, in the absence of the board persuading
Red Hat management to allocate a few Java-wizard-hours, is that those
who know just enough to be dangerous work on a few packages, hammer
out some potentially dumb guidelines, beg for answers to the tough
questions from folks who understand them. And finally, be prepared to
quite possibly be flamed for making a set of bad guidelines by people
who might just spend more time composing the flames than they would
have spent helping us write guidelines they wouldn't have felt the
need to flame.

So I'll be the reviewer. I'll need two or three simple packages and
one more complicated one, preferably by multiple submitters who are
willing to respond to input, plus some packages already in the distro
to look at. Obviously that includes at least one of yours. From
there we can get a handle on what these packages need to do, where
files need to go, and what rpmlint complaints come up.

This is almost certainly an after-fudcon thing, unless some folks at
fudcon want to sit down and bang something out.

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"Yaakov Nemoy" 01-08-2008 05:27 PM

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On 08 Jan 2008 09:51:51 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
> Yes, we on the packaging committee are positiviously ecstaticised by
> pedanticalosity.
>
> I guess what needs to happen, in the absence of the board persuading
> Red Hat management to allocate a few Java-wizard-hours, is that those
> who know just enough to be dangerous work on a few packages, hammer
> out some potentially dumb guidelines, beg for answers to the tough
> questions from folks who understand them. And finally, be prepared to
> quite possibly be flamed for making a set of bad guidelines by people
> who might just spend more time composing the flames than they would
> have spent helping us write guidelines they wouldn't have felt the
> need to flame.
>

I've banged out some bad guidelines for Haskell packaging. Is there
anyone who wants to help review them, or just plain flame them to
shreds?

-Yaakov

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Jason L Tibbitts III 01-10-2008 01:58 AM

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>>>>> "YN" == Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond@gmail.com> writes:

YN> I've banged out some bad guidelines for Haskell packaging.

It would help to have a copy of these in the wiki (and the URL, of
course).

The packaging committee wil meet January 22nd so we can discuss it
then but it would be good to have a look well before then.

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"Yaakov Nemoy" 01-10-2008 03:13 AM

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On 09 Jan 2008 20:58:54 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
> >>>>> "YN" == Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond@gmail.com> writes:
>
> YN> I've banged out some bad guidelines for Haskell packaging.
>
> It would help to have a copy of these in the wiki (and the URL, of
> course).
>
> The packaging committee wil meet January 22nd so we can discuss it
> then but it would be good to have a look well before then.

Oh, sorry, here they are,

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GoodHaskellSupport
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Haskell

-Yaakov

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Conrad Meyer 12-17-2008 10:41 AM

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Hey, I'm looking to swap reviews for:

jcodings - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473537
python-zope-filesystem - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476475

(Warning, jcodings is java.)

jcodings should be pretty simple as java libraries go.

python-zope-filesystem is a trivial package to own the %{python_sitelib}/zope
and %{python_sitearch}/zope directories for python-zope-* packages.

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"Mary Ellen Foster" 12-17-2008 11:17 AM

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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Conrad Meyer <konrad@tylerc.org> wrote:
> Hey, I'm looking to swap reviews for:
>
> jcodings - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473537
> (Warning, jcodings is java.)

Cool, I've got a lot of Java libraries pending -- if you could take a
look at any of the "leaf nodes" from
http://mef.fedorapeople.org/packages/jabref-dependencies.html (ignore
onemind-commons* stuff, I'm re-evaluating that), that would be great.
:)

I'll take a look at jcodings shortly,

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Conrad Meyer 12-17-2008 11:24 AM

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On Wednesday 17 December 2008 04:17:06 am Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Conrad Meyer <konrad@tylerc.org> wrote:
> > Hey, I'm looking to swap reviews for:
> >
> > jcodings - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473537
> > (Warning, jcodings is java.)
>
> Cool, I've got a lot of Java libraries pending -- if you could take a
> look at any of the "leaf nodes" from
> http://mef.fedorapeople.org/packages/jabref-dependencies.html (ignore
> onemind-commons* stuff, I'm re-evaluating that), that would be great.
>
> :)
>
> I'll take a look at jcodings shortly,
>
> MEF

Thanks!

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"Jerry James" 12-17-2008 03:31 PM

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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Mary Ellen Foster <mefoster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool, I've got a lot of Java libraries pending -- if you could take a
> look at any of the "leaf nodes" from
> http://mef.fedorapeople.org/packages/jabref-dependencies.html (ignore
> onemind-commons* stuff, I'm re-evaluating that), that would be great.
> :)
>
> I'll take a look at jcodings shortly,
>
> MEF
>
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> Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/
> Informatik 6: Robotics and Embedded Systems, Technische Universität München
> and ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh

Since you're helping me out with a review, I'll try to reciprocate.
Your web page talks about Fedora having antlr 2.7.7 but no antlr 3.X
version. Actually, there is an antlr3 package, but I see that bug
470729 is still open.
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