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Old 01-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Lennart Poettering
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On Thu, 14.01.10 13:58, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:

> > You can fix this issue by disabling flat-volumes by setting
> > flat-volumes=no in daemon.conf. Ideally however those drivers should
> > get fixed.
>
> The issue is that this *only* started to happen with the latest release
> of pulseaudio for F12. The packages that came with F12 on the DVD don't
> have this issue. It also isn't necessarily when playing two streams.
>
> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
> issue is.

PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
system sounds slider in g-v-c.

Lennart

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Old 01-14-2010, 08:06 PM
"Nathanael D. Noblet"
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On 01/14/2010 02:02 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 14.01.10 13:58, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:
>
>>> You can fix this issue by disabling flat-volumes by setting
>>> flat-volumes=no in daemon.conf. Ideally however those drivers should
>>> get fixed.
>>
>> The issue is that this *only* started to happen with the latest release
>> of pulseaudio for F12. The packages that came with F12 on the DVD don't
>> have this issue. It also isn't necessarily when playing two streams.
>>
>> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
>> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
>> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
>> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
>> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
>> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
>> issue is.
>
> PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
> maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
> system sounds slider in g-v-c.

Is there a way for me to debug this issue? Basically all that happens is
if I turn on audio notification, tab completion and songs going from one
to the next all sound horrible... Stuff to install/ switches to add etc..
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:09 PM
Lennart Poettering
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On Thu, 14.01.10 14:06, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:

> >> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
> >> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
> >> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
> >> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
> >> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
> >> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
> >> issue is.
> >
> > PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
> > maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
> > system sounds slider in g-v-c.
>
> Is there a way for me to debug this issue? Basically all that happens is
> if I turn on audio notification, tab completion and songs going from one
> to the next all sound horrible... Stuff to install/ switches to add etc..

Does the problem go away if you move the system sounds slider in g-v-c
to the very right?

Lennart

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Old 01-14-2010, 08:29 PM
"Nathanael D. Noblet"
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On 01/14/2010 02:09 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 14.01.10 14:06, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:
>
>>>> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
>>>> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
>>>> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
>>>> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
>>>> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
>>>> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
>>>> issue is.
>>>
>>> PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
>>> maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
>>> system sounds slider in g-v-c.
>>
>> Is there a way for me to debug this issue? Basically all that happens is
>> if I turn on audio notification, tab completion and songs going from one
>> to the next all sound horrible... Stuff to install/ switches to add etc..
>
> Does the problem go away if you move the system sounds slider in g-v-c
> to the very right?

I haven't had it happen yet. Rhythmbox had some issues with song
advancement but not like it was having previously... But I also didn't
notice the notification from TB yet so we'll see. I'll leave the audio
setting turned on and let you know.
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Bastien Nocera
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:09 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 14.01.10 14:06, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:
>
> > >> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
> > >> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
> > >> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
> > >> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
> > >> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
> > >> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
> > >> issue is.
> > >
> > > PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
> > > maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
> > > system sounds slider in g-v-c.
> >
> > Is there a way for me to debug this issue? Basically all that happens is
> > if I turn on audio notification, tab completion and songs going from one
> > to the next all sound horrible... Stuff to install/ switches to add etc..
>
> Does the problem go away if you move the system sounds slider in g-v-c
> to the very right?

I'm pretty certain that would fix it, and I'm pretty certain I filed
that one in Bugzilla quite some time ago...

Bugzilla says:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525882

The sound card I use when I get this problem is the Aureon MkII 5.1 USB,
of which I believe you have a copy, so feel free to test and let us know
if it's indeed a dB problem with the driver, or something else.

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Old 01-21-2010, 07:31 PM
"Nathanael D. Noblet"
 
Default Pulseaudio update issue...

On 01/14/2010 02:09 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 14.01.10 14:06, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathanael@gnat.ca) wrote:
>
>>>> When I advance to the next song in rhythmbox I get odd sound behaviour,
>>>> *after* I've received mail, *if* thunderbird is configured to play an
>>>> audio alert. It has been configured this way since F11, and has had no
>>>> issues until like I said the latest update. Because it only happens
>>>> after TB playing an audio notification, but thereafter until I logout
>>>> and back in. I feel like something has changed, but no idea where the
>>>> issue is.
>>>
>>> PA saves per-role/per-app volumes relative to the device volume. So
>>> maybe something changed there. Event sounds are controlled via the
>>> system sounds slider in g-v-c.
>>
>> Is there a way for me to debug this issue? Basically all that happens is
>> if I turn on audio notification, tab completion and songs going from one
>> to the next all sound horrible... Stuff to install/ switches to add etc..
>
> Does the problem go away if you move the system sounds slider in g-v-c
> to the very right?

So I just noticed it yet again... I moved some around and it went away,
but I can't seem to reproduce it again by moving them back. Is there a
command I can do to get a snapshot of current levels etc? Especially if
I can have it load them back in after changing... so I can see what
fixes what.
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