Hey everyone;

I need some advice on how to use the Fedora logo. According to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines it's okay to use change
the typeface of the Fedora text to white if the color backing it is Fedora
blue (under "Never Use the Logo on Similarly-Colored Backgrounds"); Now, if I
wanted put the logo on top of the Constantine wallpaper, the contrast is very
bad, and nearly illegible, since it's very close to Pantone 2935 in many
places.

Would it be a grey area to make the Fedora typeface white in this case? See
[1] for a screenshot of what we are talking about.. What would be the best way
to do this?

The code currently loads the png from /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png
and generates the "Welcome to" text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same
Panotone 2935 of the logo typeface. If the logo typeface was made white, it
would constitute keeping a separate image in the Fedora-tour data directory or
adding another image to the fedora-logos package, I'd assume? The former is
not a Good Thing, and the latter would probably take some intervention with
Fedora-legal? I'm not sure of the details, tbh. What are everyone's thoughts?
Any workarounds come to mind?

Background:
This is for Fedora-tour; the idea is to have it, at the option of the spin
teams who choose to use it, have the application start up full screen, with
the background that of the default Fedora wallpaper, and give users the option
to take a tour of Fedora, etc from there. We think that there should be some
sort of Fedora logo being displayed "Welcome to Fedora" or somesuch, which
brings us to using the logo. Unfortunately, the blue backgrounds often
conflict with the blue logo

[1] http://rrix.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tour/bad-contrast.png

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:51:10PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
> Hey everyone;
>
> I need some advice on how to use the Fedora logo. According to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines it's okay to use change
> the typeface of the Fedora text to white if the color backing it is Fedora
> blue (under "Never Use the Logo on Similarly-Colored Backgrounds"); Now, if I
> wanted put the logo on top of the Constantine wallpaper, the contrast is very
> bad, and nearly illegible, since it's very close to Pantone 2935 in many
> places.
>
> Would it be a grey area to make the Fedora typeface white in this case? See
> [1] for a screenshot of what we are talking about.. What would be the best way
> to do this?

CCing design-team's list -- good idea to ask logo-related questions
there.

It's definitely recommended to make the Fedora typeface white in this
case -- if you can't read "Fedora" without squinting, change it.

> The code currently loads the png from /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png
> and generates the "Welcome to" text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same
> Panotone 2935 of the logo typeface. If the logo typeface was made white, it
> would constitute keeping a separate image in the Fedora-tour data directory or
> adding another image to the fedora-logos package, I'd assume? The former is
> not a Good Thing, and the latter would probably take some intervention with
> Fedora-legal? I'm not sure of the details, tbh. What are everyone's thoughts?
> Any workarounds come to mind?

Filing a bug against fedora-logos and attaching the proposed PNG with a
rationale would probably do the trick.

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:51:10PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
> Hey everyone;
>
> I need some advice on how to use the Fedora logo. According to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines it's okay to use change
> the typeface of the Fedora text to white if the color backing it is Fedora
> blue (under "Never Use the Logo on Similarly-Colored Backgrounds"); Now, if I
> wanted put the logo on top of the Constantine wallpaper, the contrast is very
> bad, and nearly illegible, since it's very close to Pantone 2935 in many
> places.
>
> Would it be a grey area to make the Fedora typeface white in this case? See
> [1] for a screenshot of what we are talking about.. What would be the best way
> to do this?

CCing design-team's list -- good idea to ask logo-related questions
there.

It's definitely recommended to make the Fedora typeface white in this
case -- if you can't read "Fedora" without squinting, change it.

> The code currently loads the png from /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png
> and generates the "Welcome to" text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same
> Panotone 2935 of the logo typeface. If the logo typeface was made white, it
> would constitute keeping a separate image in the Fedora-tour data directory or
> adding another image to the fedora-logos package, I'd assume? The former is
> not a Good Thing, and the latter would probably take some intervention with
> Fedora-legal? I'm not sure of the details, tbh. What are everyone's thoughts?
> Any workarounds come to mind?

Filing a bug against fedora-logos and attaching the proposed PNG with a
rationale would probably do the trick.

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On Mon 21 December 2009 11:40:54 pm Ian Weller wrote:
> > The code currently loads the png from
> > /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png and generates the "Welcome to"
> > text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same Panotone 2935 of the logo
> > typeface. If the logo typeface was made white, it would constitute
> > keeping a separate image in the Fedora-tour data directory or adding
> > another image to the fedora-logos package, I'd assume? The former is not
> > a Good Thing, and the latter would probably take some intervention with
> > Fedora-legal? I'm not sure of the details, tbh. What are everyone's
> > thoughts? Any workarounds come to mind?
>
> Filing a bug against fedora-logos and attaching the proposed PNG with a
> rationale would probably do the trick.
>

Cool beans; https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549628

Thanks Ian

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On Mon 21 December 2009 11:40:54 pm Ian Weller wrote:
> > The code currently loads the png from
> > /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png and generates the "Welcome to"
> > text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same Panotone 2935 of the logo
> > typeface. If the logo typeface was made white, it would constitute
> > keeping a separate image in the Fedora-tour data directory or adding
> > another image to the fedora-logos package, I'd assume? The former is not
> > a Good Thing, and the latter would probably take some intervention with
> > Fedora-legal? I'm not sure of the details, tbh. What are everyone's
> > thoughts? Any workarounds come to mind?
>
> Filing a bug against fedora-logos and attaching the proposed PNG with a
> rationale would probably do the trick.
>

Cool beans; https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549628

Thanks Ian

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On 12/22/2009 08:40 AM, Ian Weller wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:51:10PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
>> I need some advice on how to use the Fedora logo. According to
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines it's okay to use change
>> the typeface of the Fedora text to white if the color backing it is Fedora
>> blue (under "Never Use the Logo on Similarly-Colored Backgrounds"); Now, if I
>> wanted put the logo on top of the Constantine wallpaper, the contrast is very
>> bad, and nearly illegible, since it's very close to Pantone 2935 in many
>> places.
>>
>> Would it be a grey area to make the Fedora typeface white in this case? See
>> [1] for a screenshot of what we are talking about.. What would be the best way
>> to do this?
>
> CCing design-team's list -- good idea to ask logo-related questions
> there.
>
> It's definitely recommended to make the Fedora typeface white in this
> case -- if you can't read "Fedora" without squinting, change it.

+1, this is that the Usage Guidelines practically says.

>> The code currently loads the png from /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png
>> and generates the "Welcome to" text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same
>> Panotone 2935 of the logo typeface.

I bet you wanted to say here "the same hex value"

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On 12/22/2009 08:40 AM, Ian Weller wrote:

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:51:10PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:

I need some advice on how to use the Fedora logo. According to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines it's okay to use change
the typeface of the Fedora text to white if the color backing it is Fedora
blue (under "Never Use the Logo on Similarly-Colored Backgrounds"); Now, if I
wanted put the logo on top of the Constantine wallpaper, the contrast is very
bad, and nearly illegible, since it's very close to Pantone 2935 in many
places.

Would it be a grey area to make the Fedora typeface white in this case? See
[1] for a screenshot of what we are talking about.. What would be the best way
to do this?


CCing design-team's list -- good idea to ask logo-related questions
there.

It's definitely recommended to make the Fedora typeface white in this
case -- if you can't read "Fedora" without squinting, change it.


+1, this is that the Usage Guidelines practically says.


The code currently loads the png from /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-small.png
and generates the "Welcome to" text from MgOpen Modata Bold in the same
Panotone 2935 of the logo typeface.


I bet you wanted to say here "the same hex value"

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On Tue 22 December 2009 12:48:47 am Nicu Buculei wrote:
>
> I bet you wanted to say here "the same hex value"
>

Yup, sorry, it's bedtime for me :^)

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On Tue 22 December 2009 12:48:47 am Nicu Buculei wrote:
>
> I bet you wanted to say here "the same hex value"
>

Yup, sorry, it's bedtime for me :^)

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