Hello,

There are packages that are shipped part of texlive, though texlive is
not the upstream for those packages. Among those, some are in fedora
texlive, as an exception because they were in tetex previously.
I personally don't want to maintain them since I maintain enough
packages already, but I can review them.


In texlive but should be separate:
xdvik (xdvi)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi

dvpdfm
http://gaspra.kettering.edu/dvipdfm/

dvipng
http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/dvipng/



Not in fedora texlive but in upstream texlive:
devnag
http://devnag.sarovar.org/

detex
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/trinkle/detex/

ttf2pt1
http://ttf2pt1.sourceforge.net/

dvi2tty
http://www.mesa.nl/pub/dvi2tty/

chktex

afm2pl
http://tex.aanhet.net/afm2pl/

lcdf-typetools
http://www.lcdf.org/type/



As a side note, dvipdfmx maybe should be packaged from the real
upstream
http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/
but it is not obvious since it is used in texlive.

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On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> In texlive but should be separate:
> xdvik (xdvi)
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
>

The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).

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On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:08:22PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> > In texlive but should be separate:
> > xdvik (xdvi)
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
> >
>
> The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
> enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).

No, the need for this would not disappear, at least for me.

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On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:08:22PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> > On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> > > In texlive but should be separate:
> > > xdvik (xdvi)
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
> > >
> >
> > The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
> > enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).
>
> No, the need for this would not disappear, at least for me.

Actually, yeah, having just done a local build of evince with the dvi
backend enabled, I concur. There's some convenience issues for a start
- evince still doesn't automatically reread a file when it changes on
disk (which xdvi does), and there's something not working with source
specials in evince as well.

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On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 13:08 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> > In texlive but should be separate:
> > xdvik (xdvi)
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
> >
>
> The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
> enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).
>

This has been enabled in rawhide for a while now.

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On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 14:13 +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:08:22PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> > On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> > > In texlive but should be separate:
> > > xdvik (xdvi)
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
> > >
> >
> > The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
> > enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).
>
> No, the need for this would not disappear, at least for me.

But it's still a good idea.

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Matthew Saltzman wrote, at 01/06/2008 01:52 AM +9:00:
> On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 14:13 +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:08:22PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
>>> On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
>>>> In texlive but should be separate:
>>>> xdvik (xdvi)
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
>>>>
>>> The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
>>> enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).
>> No, the need for this would not disappear, at least for me.
>
> But it's still a good idea.
>

pxdvi (in xdvi) is definitely needed for Japanese pTeX users.

Regards,
Mamoru

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On 05/01/2008, Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> wrote:
> pxdvi (in xdvi) is definitely needed for Japanese pTeX users.


Am in the process of hacking together a spec file for xdvi (including
pxdvi) by hacking the relevant parts from the texlive SPEC. It doesn't
build yet, but anyone feeling like helping can find it here:

http://jgu.fedorapeople.org/xdvik.spec

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On 05/01/2008, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 13:08 +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> > On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> > > In texlive but should be separate:
> > > xdvik (xdvi)
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
> > >
> >
> > The need for this one would disappear if the evince packager would
> > enable the dvi backend in evince (BZ #187381).
> >
>
> This has been enabled in rawhide for a while now.
>

So BZ #187381 can be closed RAWHIDE?

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On 05/01/2008, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There are packages that are shipped part of texlive, though texlive is
> not the upstream for those packages. Among those, some are in fedora
> texlive, as an exception because they were in tetex previously.
> I personally don't want to maintain them since I maintain enough
> packages already, but I can review them.
>
>
> In texlive but should be separate:
> xdvik (xdvi)
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdvi
>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427667

This package builds on F8, but still needs a fair bit of work, and is
not yet review ready. However, I wanted to get it out in the open
early to get feedback. Would welcome all and any hep.

What I have done:
* Sun Jan 6 2008 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood@gmail.com>
- 22.84.13-1
- Initial package based on the texlive.spec by Jindrich Novy
- Updated to latest upstream xdvik and Japanese xdvik
- Reviewed all patches relating to xdvi in texlive.spec and cherry picked
those that are still needed
- Reworked the patch to allow building of xdvik and pxdvik


What still needs to be done:
Currently this builds against the bundled kpathsea library sources in
the tarball. We should be building against the kpathsea(-devel) packages
instead. Lots of missing Requires and BuildRequires. Needs building in Mock
for devel and rpmlint checking. And testing lots.

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