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Old 01-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Sebastian Vahl
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (01/2008)

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
*to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 01/2008

Time: 2008-01-03 16:00 UTC

Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-01-03

Meeting log:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-01-03?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-kde-sig-2008-01-03.txt

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= Participants =

- KevinKofler
- LukasTinkl
- RexDieter
- SebastianVahl

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= Agenda =

- KDE 4 LiveCD [1]
- kde-settings for kde 4
- development progress: the road to kde4

= Summary =

o KDE 4 LiveCD:
- According to the thread on fedora-test-list the current live image has a lot
of problems. Some of them are related to kde 4 itself (and hopefully be fixed
in the final), some are related to current xserver in rawhide (vesa) and
should be filed as bugs
- KDE-4.0.0 would propably be shipped without composite support enabled by
default (which "fixes" the problem with intel graphics)
- KDE-4.0.0 is scheduled to be tagged tommorrow and to be released on
2008-01-11. After the inclusion into rawhide we should get new live images
online

o kde-settings:
- Upstream has decided to not show desktop icons by default
- Besides default kickoff menu upstream will ship a "simple menu" as an
alternative
- Both things aren't part of current kde-3.97.0 and we should reconsider them
after the final release and we see how they perform

o development progress: the road to kde4:
- new review requests for packages from extragear/playground:
- #427185: Okteta (a replacement for khexedit which isn't ported to KDE4) [2]
- other packages which aren't worked on: Wishlist [3]
- konq-plugins (from extragear/base, used to be in kdeaddons)
- kiconedit (from extragear/graphics, used to be in kdegraphics)
- kcoloredit (from extragear/graphics, used to be in kdegraphics)
- kaudiocreator (from extragear/multimedia, used to be in kdemultimedia)
- kmid (from extragear/multimedia, used to be in kdemultimedia)
- ksig (from extragear/pim, used to be in kdeaddons)

o Other things:
- xsettings-kde: This packages provides a XSettings daemon to allow XSettings
aware applications (all GTK+ 2 and GNOME 2 applications)
to be informed instantly of changes in KDE configuration. It currently is
packaged in kde-redhat-testing repository until it is reviewed and included
in fedora [4]
- Review Request: kde4-decoration-native-quarticurve-kwin - Unofficial port of
the Bluecurve KWin decoration to KDE 4 [5]
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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-01-08

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= Links =

[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2007-December/msg00494.html
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427185
[3]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4Status#head-928cc2a2c2429f8f6a343c1a88c6588adc416992
[4] http://kdeforge.unl.edu/apt/kde-redhat/SOURCES/xsettings-kde/
[5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427185
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Jesse Barnes
 
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On Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:34 pm Sebastian Vahl wrote:
> - KDE-4.0.0 would propably be shipped without composite support enabled by
> default (which "fixes" the problem with intel graphics)

Where can I find more info about this problem? Is it really an intel driver
problem or something else?

Thanks,
Jesse

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Old 01-04-2008, 01:25 PM
Rex Dieter
 
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Jesse Barnes wrote:

> On Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:34 pm Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>> - KDE-4.0.0 would propably be shipped without composite support enabled
>> by default (which "fixes" the problem with intel graphics)
>
> Where can I find more info about this problem? Is it really an intel
> driver problem or something else?

This blog prompted our sig discussion:
http://rivolaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-year-kwin-and-other-stuff.html

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Old 01-04-2008, 05:51 PM
Jesse Barnes
 
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On Friday, January 04, 2008 6:25 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:34 pm Sebastian Vahl wrote:
> >> - KDE-4.0.0 would propably be shipped without composite support
> >> enabled by default (which "fixes" the problem with intel graphics)
> >
> > Where can I find more info about this problem? Is it really an
> > intel driver problem or something else?
>
> This blog prompted our sig discussion:
> http://rivolaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-year-kwin-and-other-stuff.ht
>ml

That looks like a general discussion of whether it should be off by
default or not (sounds like it should be). AFAIK the only problem with
Intel & compositing is that it's not well supported if you're using XAA
(Xv and other features won't work). Unfortunately, we have some EXA
performance problems, so in some configurations the alternative isn't
very palatable either (though this should be fixed soon).

Jesse

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