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Old 11-09-2008, 09:33 PM
Aioanei Rares
 
Default sound skipping in F10

Muayyad AlSadi wrote:

I consider this bug very very critical
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469591

for the following reasons
1. we have't this bug in F9
2. we claim a Glitchless audio experience
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio
ie. to the end user "when you did not claim this thing it was smooth
and when you claim it, you lost it!"
3. I don't listen to Music, maybe when it skips a tune it will be
missed by ear considering the noisy music of those times but I listen
to lectures and speaks, it will be very annoying when it skips a "no"
or "not" in the middle of a sentence

I'm not underestimating the good effort behind pulse

but please make that bug assigned and let's inspect it more

PS. My sound card is ESS (snd_es1938)


Yes, I get this too with Intel ICH and Amarok or Juk and rawhide...plus
I couldn't get youtube to work with sound with a player running
(paused), despite libflashsupport.{i386,x86_64} installed. So i
uninstalled pulseaudio for now and it's all ok.


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Old 11-09-2008, 10:10 PM
"David Hláčik"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

Same problem here - Intel HD Audio - Asus F3Sr

D.

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 23:33, Aioanei Rares <schaiba@gmail.com> wrote:
> Muayyad AlSadi wrote:
>>
>> I consider this bug very very critical
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469591
>>
>> for the following reasons
>> 1. we have't this bug in F9
>> 2. we claim a Glitchless audio experience
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio
>> ie. to the end user "when you did not claim this thing it was smooth
>> and when you claim it, you lost it!"
>> 3. I don't listen to Music, maybe when it skips a tune it will be
>> missed by ear considering the noisy music of those times but I listen
>> to lectures and speaks, it will be very annoying when it skips a "no"
>> or "not" in the middle of a sentence
>>
>> I'm not underestimating the good effort behind pulse
>>
>> but please make that bug assigned and let's inspect it more
>>
>> PS. My sound card is ESS (snd_es1938)
>>
>>
>
> Yes, I get this too with Intel ICH and Amarok or Juk and rawhide...plus I
> couldn't get youtube to work with sound with a player running (paused),
> despite libflashsupport.{i386,x86_64} installed. So i uninstalled pulseaudio
> for now and it's all ok.
>
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:22 PM
"Pavel Shevchuk"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

Same stuff for me on my SB Live! and x86_64 rawhide. I guess it's not
hardware related

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Muayyad AlSadi <alsadi@gmail.com> wrote:
> I consider this bug very very critical
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469591
>
> for the following reasons
> 1. we have't this bug in F9
> 2. we claim a Glitchless audio experience
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio
> ie. to the end user "when you did not claim this thing it was smooth
> and when you claim it, you lost it!"
> 3. I don't listen to Music, maybe when it skips a tune it will be
> missed by ear considering the noisy music of those times but I listen
> to lectures and speaks, it will be very annoying when it skips a "no"
> or "not" in the middle of a sentence
>
> I'm not underestimating the good effort behind pulse
>
> but please make that bug assigned and let's inspect it more
>
> PS. My sound card is ESS (snd_es1938)
>
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:06 AM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default sound skipping in F10

Aioanei Rares wrote:


Yes, I get this too with Intel ICH and Amarok or Juk and rawhide...plus
I couldn't get youtube to work with sound with a player running
(paused), despite libflashsupport.{i386,x86_64} installed. So i
uninstalled pulseaudio for now and it's all ok.


If you are using Flash 10, you should *not* install libflashsupport.

Rahul

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Old 11-10-2008, 07:53 AM
Aioanei Rares
 
Default sound skipping in F10

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Aioanei Rares wrote:


Yes, I get this too with Intel ICH and Amarok or Juk and
rawhide...plus I couldn't get youtube to work with sound with a
player running (paused), despite libflashsupport.{i386,x86_64}
installed. So i uninstalled pulseaudio for now and it's all ok.


If you are using Flash 10, you should *not* install libflashsupport.

Rahul

It's all the same with or without libflashsupport. My two cents go to
the kernel being responsible

for the sound skipping part.

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Old 11-10-2008, 01:19 PM
"Muayyad AlSadi"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

> It's all the same with or without libflashsupport. My two cents go to the
> kernel being responsible
> for the sound skipping part.
>
the same assumption by home

also I assume that ffmpeg were falsely accused for bad performance on rpmfusion

I suspect the kernel because both alsasink and pulsesink in gst

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Old 11-10-2008, 01:21 PM
"Muayyad AlSadi"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

I have a question about
> If you are using Flash 10, you should *not* install libflashsupport.
do you mean it or do you mean "need not"

anyway the problem is even in nonflash player

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Old 11-14-2008, 04:56 PM
"Konrad Mosoń"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

I have the same problem on my Realtek HighDefinition Audio.
Skipping stopped when you boot Fedora with "nomodeset" parameter.

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Old 11-14-2008, 06:53 PM
"Muayyad AlSadi"
 
Default sound skipping in F10

are you sure!! AFAIK modeset is about video not audio

after the last update to the kernel I hear lesser skips
(you may thought it's the nomodeset thing)
but the problem is still there

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Old 11-15-2008, 12:46 AM
Callum Lerwick
 
Default sound skipping in F10

On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 21:53 +0200, Muayyad AlSadi wrote:
> are you sure!! AFAIK modeset is about video not audio

I have had all sorts of problems with audio skipping while graphics are
happening going back to F9, and still happening in F10. Playing music in
rhythmbox is flawless. Until I end up on a web page with craptons of
animated ads. Or try and watch youtube videos. Skip studder skip.

After 11 years, VGA still kills:

http://alsa.linux.or.jp/misc/vgakills.txt

This is with a Radeon 9600XT with the Fedora r300 drivers. Although I
don't seem to have problems if I bypass pulseaudio...

> after the last update to the kernel I hear lesser skips
> (you may thought it's the nomodeset thing)
> but the problem is still there
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