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Old 11-04-2008, 06:59 AM
Thorsten Leemhuis
 
Default Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-11-03

On 04.11.2008 06:31, John Poelstra wrote:
> [...]

== Fedora 11 Schedule ==
* https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/843 (discussion to date)
** Includes three proposals
* attendees would like to see a different proposed scenario to compare
to a regular "may day" schedule

*# 'May Day' schedule should GA on 2009-05-05 (not 2009-04-28)
*# second scenario should be F10 GA date + six month schedule
(2009-05-05 + ~30 days)


12 to 18 months ago the Board IIRC decided to *always* target late
April/early May and late October/early November for the releases. IOW:
we got rid of the GA + six months schedule we had for some time. Why is
the idea coming back? Was the board involved?


CU
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:03 AM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-11-03

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

On 04.11.2008 06:31, John Poelstra wrote:
> [...]

== Fedora 11 Schedule ==
* https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/843 (discussion to date)
** Includes three proposals
* attendees would like to see a different proposed scenario to compare
to a regular "may day" schedule

*# 'May Day' schedule should GA on 2009-05-05 (not 2009-04-28)
*# second scenario should be F10 GA date + six month schedule
(2009-05-05 + ~30 days)


12 to 18 months ago the Board IIRC decided to *always* target late
April/early May and late October/early November for the releases. IOW:
we got rid of the GA + six months schedule we had for some time. Why is
the idea coming back? Was the board involved?


Reading the ticket suggests that this issue is already been discussed
within the ticket. It would be better to continue within there to keep
the ideas together. Note: the rel-eng proposal is a draft.


Rahul

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Old 11-04-2008, 11:20 AM
Josh Boyer
 
Default Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-11-03

On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:33:35PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 04.11.2008 06:31, John Poelstra wrote:
>> > [...]
>>> == Fedora 11 Schedule ==
>>> * https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/843 (discussion to date)
>>> ** Includes three proposals
>>> * attendees would like to see a different proposed scenario to
>>> compare to a regular "may day" schedule
>>> *# 'May Day' schedule should GA on 2009-05-05 (not 2009-04-28)
>>> *# second scenario should be F10 GA date + six month schedule
>>> (2009-05-05 + ~30 days)
>>
>> 12 to 18 months ago the Board IIRC decided to *always* target late
>> April/early May and late October/early November for the releases. IOW:
>> we got rid of the GA + six months schedule we had for some time. Why is
>> the idea coming back? Was the board involved?
>
> Reading the ticket suggests that this issue is already been discussed
> within the ticket. It would be better to continue within there to keep
> the ideas together. Note: the rel-eng proposal is a draft.


Wait. rel-eng opened the ticket to have a place to discuss it internally.
They wanted to come to a cohesive proposal before sending it to f-a-b or
-devel. So while you can certainly comment the ticket if you want, they do
plan on sending this to the lists at some point. It might be a bit easier
to do discussion on that list instead.

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Old 11-04-2008, 12:55 PM
Jesse Keating
 
Default Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-11-03

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 07:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:33:35PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >> On 04.11.2008 06:31, John Poelstra wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >>> == Fedora 11 Schedule ==
> >>> * https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/843 (discussion to date)
> >>> ** Includes three proposals
> >>> * attendees would like to see a different proposed scenario to
> >>> compare to a regular "may day" schedule
> >>> *# 'May Day' schedule should GA on 2009-05-05 (not 2009-04-28)
> >>> *# second scenario should be F10 GA date + six month schedule
> >>> (2009-05-05 + ~30 days)
> >>
> >> 12 to 18 months ago the Board IIRC decided to *always* target late
> >> April/early May and late October/early November for the releases. IOW:
> >> we got rid of the GA + six months schedule we had for some time. Why is
> >> the idea coming back? Was the board involved?
> >
> > Reading the ticket suggests that this issue is already been discussed
> > within the ticket. It would be better to continue within there to keep
> > the ideas together. Note: the rel-eng proposal is a draft.
>
>
> Wait. rel-eng opened the ticket to have a place to discuss it internally.
> They wanted to come to a cohesive proposal before sending it to f-a-b or
> -devel. So while you can certainly comment the ticket if you want, they do
> plan on sending this to the lists at some point. It might be a bit easier
> to do discussion on that list instead.
>
> josh
>

Josh is correct. Releng has taken some input from various parties and
feels that there is sufficient reason to break tradition with the F11
schedule. However, given the significance of such a break this needs to
get a full vetting in the public space, and I'll be starting a thread on
Fedora Advisory Board shortly to start that discussion. The rel-eng
discussion up to date has been exploring what the different scenarios
would lead to in a schedule as well as some other adjustments such as as
staggered freezes.

Releng has not the power nor the desire to make this decision on it's
own.

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