On Saturday 01 November 2008 13:18:35 Mail Lists wrote:
> On 11/01/2008 05:35 AM, Steven Moix wrote:
> > This leads me to think that these statistics are probably biased?
> Could be - but that doesn't explain why its biased for F8 .. in fact
> would you not expect more people to use smolt over time - as suspicion
> fades about big brother etc ...
Well, I don't think I've submitted smolt stats for this machine, but it still
runs F8 for two reasons:
1. KDE4 just wasn't ready for me to use here for work. Fun to play with at home,
but I couldn't imagine using it here without some workflow changes. The latest
versions I've seen in Rawhide would be pretty much usable at work now, BUT ...
2. I can't use the latest snapshots or Rawhide on my system here because X (and
the boot sequence unless I use "nomodeset nofb£ on the kernel command line)
explodes, the OOPSes have gone to kerneloops.org, but the problem is, there is
no support for soft-booting secondary video cards and I have three (all PCI) in
this machine. Which helps me find bugs in xscreensaver ;o)
So, I simply cannot upgrade it at the moment. I have a partition with Rawhide
installed, and as long as I use the kernel command line magic to stop the
radeon drm driver loading, and run X on a single screen without DRI, it works
well enough to see that KDE is now really pretty (looks like my WindowMaker
desktop c. 1998 ;o) but that's good). I would love to upgrade, it's sweet.
> Then I imagine the KDE issue has prevented many from upgrading until
> KDE 4.2 is out - too bad smolt cant easily answer the kde vs gnome usage
> - its not just an install issue - need to scan for dates inside .kde and
> .gnomeX perhaps - maybe ignore anything over X weeks old etc. Maybe
> someone can figure out a way.
Absolutely. I hung back waiting for F10 here, because I didn't find KDE4 to be
ready for "production" use - but now I can't run it for other reasons.
[ please no flamewar about kde4 - I like it but it wasn't ready to replace 3.5
*for me, in my working environment* yet; now, it looks like it is good enough,
although I've not had a chance to investigate how well it works for multiple X
heads, 'cause X don't work
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