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Old 10-23-2008, 05:28 PM
Dmitry Butskoy
 
Default Too early emails about updates?

Recently something was changed in a way how update reports go to
fedora-package-announce list.


Previously, at a time when I received such emails, the correspond
updates was already presented at the primary Fedora repository. Now, I
receive emails, but the updates are still missing.


Certainly nobody can demand that recent updates appear on mirrors too
soon. But at the primary site, the previous behaviour (ie. first in
repo, then email report) would be preferable. Some people download
updates manually (fe. "yum --downloadonly" into a local repository, then
check source/changelog, then update local hosts etc.). This disorder
causes them to remember that they should re-check repositories later.



~buc




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Old 10-23-2008, 05:50 PM
Mamoru Tasaka
 
Default Too early emails about updates?

Dmitry Butskoy wrote, at 10/24/2008 02:28 AM +9:00:
Recently something was changed in a way how update reports go to
fedora-package-announce list.


Previously, at a time when I received such emails, the correspond
updates was already presented at the primary Fedora repository. Now, I
receive emails, but the updates are still missing.


Yes, I also received a strange mail one hours ago.

updates_at_fedoraproject.org says that manedit-1.2.1-1.fc9 is pushed
to stable:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg00682.html

However:
[tasaka1@localhost ~]$ koji latest-pkg dist-f9-updates manedit
Build Tag Built by
---------------------------------------- -------------------- ----------------
manedit-1.1.1-2.fc9 dist-f9-updates mtasaka
[tasaka1@localhost ~]$ koji latest-pkg dist-f9-updates-testing manedit
Build Tag Built by
---------------------------------------- -------------------- ----------------
manedit-1.2.1-1.fc9 dist-f9-updates-testing mtasaka

Usually I received the updates notification mail after the mail that
tagging as dist-f9-updates was done. Now I have not received that
manedit-1.2.1-1.fc9 is tagged as dist-f9-updates yet (and indeed
it is not tagged).

Mamoru

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Old 10-23-2008, 11:52 PM
Luke Macken
 
Default Too early emails about updates?

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:28:41PM +0400, Dmitry Butskoy wrote:
> Recently something was changed in a way how update reports go to
> fedora-package-announce list.
>
> Previously, at a time when I received such emails, the correspond
> updates was already presented at the primary Fedora repository. Now, I
> receive emails, but the updates are still missing.
>
> Certainly nobody can demand that recent updates appear on mirrors too
> soon. But at the primary site, the previous behaviour (ie. first in
> repo, then email report) would be preferable. Some people download
> updates manually (fe. "yum --downloadonly" into a local repository, then
> check source/changelog, then update local hosts etc.). This disorder
> causes them to remember that they should re-check repositories later.

Nothing has changed recently with regard to how/when update
notifications are sent out. After composing the repositories, bodhi
waits until they hit the master mirror, and then sends out the notices
to the fedora-package-announce list (among doing many other things as
well).

With regard to today's updates push, a stale koji session caused an
explosion to occur before the build tags were even moved. Then,
resuming the push skipped the moving of the builds and went ahead and
sent their notices even when they did not appear in the repositories.
I'm going to be making bodhi's masher a bit more robust with regard to
handling and recovering from unexpected issues like this soon. I've
since fixed all of the tags, and fresh repositories are mashing as we
speak.

Thanks for speaking up about this. Since bodhi waits for the repos to
hit the mirrors before sending update announcements, if you notice
missing packages, please file a ticket against bodhi or rel-eng asap so
we can fix it.

Thanks,

luke

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